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NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 03:57 PM

Do any of you agree with Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Artists of all Time list?
 
I honestly think they screwed up a few times..
Pink Floyd at 51 ..C'mon WTF!
100 Greatest Artists: The Beatles | Rolling Stone

Paul Smeenus 03-05-2013 03:58 PM

I don't even have to read it to know I don't agree with it. In fact I won't. :)

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1293941)
I don't even have to read it to know I don't agree with it. In fact I won't. :)

How the hell are you gonna put Aretha Franklin in the top 10? It doesn't make any damn sense!

Paul Smeenus 03-05-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293942)
How the hell are you gonna put Aretha Franklin in the top 10? It doesn't make any damn sense!



Good bye.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-05-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293942)
How the hell are you gonna put Aretha Franklin in the top 10? It doesn't make any damn sense!

Why? She's one of the greatest female singers of all time?

Key 03-05-2013 04:02 PM

Is this like the 50th thread about how bad the rolling stone magazine is?

Goofle 03-05-2013 04:03 PM

Switch No. 38 with No. 46 and I agree with it completely.

Paul Smeenus 03-05-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1293945)
Is this like the 50th thread about how bad the rolling stone magazine is?



Good point

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-05-2013 04:04 PM

If putting anal beads in polls can be a musicbanter tradition I see no reason why the bi-monthly 'Rolling Stone List' threads can't be.

Plus it gives people another good reason to shit on all the popular bands they hate.

FRED HALE SR. 03-05-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1293944)
Why? She's one of the greatest female singers of all time?

+1. How can you think Michael Jackson is underrated and then slag Aretha Franklin. Pink Floyd as much as I like them deserve to be about 51.

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1293944)
Why? She's one of the greatest female singers of all time?

I guess I'm more of an album kind of guy...I prefer a large/solid body of work instead of hit singles. She has a beautiful voice but I just can't get into her music.. They put the Beach Boys at number 12 and Led Zeppelin at 13 lol Man if that isn't backwards then I don't know what is...Beach Boys deserve to be in the top 10 and Led Zeppelin deserves to be in the top 5. Marvin Gaye at 18? Creedence Clearwater Revival at 82? Radiohead at 73? Grrrrrrrrrr!!!

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-05-2013 04:05 PM

Lady Soul might be the best album by a female singer in the 60s.

I'm a kind of album guy too.

Paul Smeenus 03-05-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293950)
I guess I'm more of an album kind of guy...I prefer a large/solid body of work instead of hit singles. She has a beautiful voice but I just can't get into her music.. They put the Beach Boys at number 12 and Led Zeppelin at 13 lol Man if that isn't backwards then I don't know what is...Beach Boys deserve to be in the top 10 and Led Zeppelin deserves to be in the top 5. Marvin Gaye at 18? Creedence Clearwater Revival at 82? Radiohead at 73? Grrrrrrrrrr!!!



Does this board have an ignore function?


*edited to add: nevermind, I found it

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1293949)
+1. How can you think Michael Jackson is underrated and then slag Aretha Franklin. Pink Floyd as much as I like them deserve to be about 51.

Michael Jackson at 35? :/ Lol **** the popularity and album sales ..talent wise he deserves to be in the top 20..Don't forget about the Jackson 5 era **** either.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-05-2013 04:07 PM

Pink Floyd should be lower.

Can, King Crimson, Kraftwerk, Soft Machine, Neu! ........

All making much more interesting music than Pink Floyd ever did around that time.

FRED HALE SR. 03-05-2013 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1293954)
Pink Floyd should be lower.

Can, King Crimson, Kraftwerk, Soft Machine, Neu! ........

All making much more interesting music than Pink Floyd ever did around that time.

The most notable one for me is Simon and Garfunkel. I realize they were poster boys for folk music for many decades but top 40 just doesn't seem right.

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1293951)
Lady Soul might be the best album by a female singer in the 60s.

I'm a kind of album guy too.

:) That's the only album by her I recognized and listened through..maybe I'm missing out on something else.
Do you agree with this?
500 Greatest Albums of All Time | Rolling Stone
Here's 1-200
Spoiler for long list:
1 The Beatles – Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
2 The Beach Boys – Pet Sounds
3 The Beatles – Revolver
4 Bob Dylan – Highway 61 Revisited
5 The Beatles – Rubber Soul
6 Marvin Gaye – What's Going On
7 The Rolling Stones – Exile on Main Street
8 The Clash – London Calling
9 Bob Dylan – Blonde on Blonde
10 The Beatles – The Beatles
11 NEW Elvis Presley – Sunrise
12 Miles Davis – Kind of Blue
13 The Velvet Underground – The Velvet Underground & Nico
14 The Beatles – Abbey Road
15 The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Are You Experienced
16 Bob Dylan – Blood on the Tracks
17 Nirvana – Nevermind
18 Bruce Springsteen – Born to Run
19 Van Morrison – Astral Weeks
20 Michael Jackson – Thriller
21 Chuck Berry – The Great Twenty-Eight
22 NEW Robert Johnson – The Complete Recordings
23 John Lennon – John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
24 Stevie Wonder – Innervisions
25 James Brown – Live At The Apollo
26 Fleetwood Mac – Rumours
27 U2 – The Joshua Tree
28 The Who – Who's Next
29 Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin
30 Joni Mitchell – Blue
31 Bob Dylan – Bringing It All Back Home
32 The Rolling Stones – Let It Bleed
33 Ramones – Ramones
34 The Band – Music From Big Pink
35 David Bowie – The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
36 Carole King – Tapestry
37 Eagles – Hotel California
38 Muddy Waters – The Anthology: 1947-1972
39 The Beatles – Please Please Me
40 Love – Forever Changes
41 Sex Pistols – Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols
42 The Doors – The Doors
43 Pink Floyd – The Dark Side of the Moon
44 Patti Smith – Horses
45 The Band – The Band
46 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Legend
47 John Coltrane – A Love Supreme
48 Public Enemy – It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
49 The Allman Brothers Band – At Fillmore East
50 Little Richard – Here's Little Richard
51 Simon & Garfunkel – Bridge Over Troubled Waters
52 Al Green – Greatest Hits
53 The Beatles – Meet the Beatles!
54 Ray Charles – The Birth of Soul: The Complete Atlantic Rhythm and Blues Recordings 1952-1959
55 The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Electric Ladyland
56 Elvis Presley – Elvis Presley
57 Stevie Wonder – Songs In The Key Of Life
58 The Rolling Stones – Beggars Banquet
59 NEW Creedence Clearwater Revival – Chronicle
60 Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band – Trout Mask Replica
61 Sly & The Family Stone – Greatest Hits
62 Guns N' Roses – Appetite for Destruction
63 U2 – Achtung Baby
64 The Rolling Stones – Sticky Fingers
65 Phil Spector – Back to Mono (1958-1969)
66 Van Morrison – Moondance
67 +361 Radiohead – Kid A
68 Michael Jackson – Off the Wall
69 Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin IV
70 Billy Joel – The Stranger
71 +10 Paul Simon – Graceland
72 Curtis Mayfield – Superfly
73 Led Zeppelin – Physical Graffiti
74 Neil Young – After the Gold Rush
75 James Brown – Star Time
76 Prince – Purple Rain
77 AC/DC – Back in Black
78 Otis Redding – Otis Blue
79 Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin II
80 John Lennon – Imagine
81 The Clash – The Clash
82 Neil Young – Harvest
83 The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Axis: Bold As Love
84 Aretha Franklin – I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You
85 Aretha Franklin – Lady Soul
86 Bruce Springsteen – Born in the U.S.A.
87 Pink Floyd – The Wall
88 Johnny Cash – At Folsom Prison
89 Dusty Springfield – Dusty In Memphis
90 Stevie Wonder – Talking Book
91 Elton John – Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
92 Buddy Holly & The Crickets – 20 Golden Greats
93 Prince – Sign 'O' The Times
94 +35 Hank Williams – 40 Greatest Hits
95 Miles Davis – Bitches Brew
96 The Who – Tommy
97 Bob Dylan – The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
98 Elvis Costello – This Year's Model
99 Sly & The Family Stone – There's a Riot Goin' On
100 -20 The Zombies – Odessey and Oracle

101 Frank Sinatra – In the Wee Small Hours
102 Cream – Fresh Cream
103 John Coltrane – Giant Steps
104 James Taylor – Sweet Baby James
105 Ray Charles – Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music
106 Ramones – Rocket to Russia
107 Sam Cooke – Portrait of a Legend 1951-1964
108 David Bowie – Hunky Dory
109 The Rolling Stones – Aftermath
110 The Velvet Underground – Loaded
111 Radiohead – The Bends
112 +15 The Mamas & The Papas – If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears
113 Joni Mitchell – Court and Spark
114 Cream – Disraeli Gears
115 The Who – The Who Sell Out
116 The Rolling Stones – Out of Our Heads
117 Derek and The Dominos – Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs
118 NEW Kanye West – Late Registration
119 Etta James – At Last!
120 The Byrds – Sweetheart Of The Rodeo
121 Sly & The Family Stone – Stand!
122 Jimmy Cliff – The Harder They Come
123 Run-D.M.C. – Raising Hell
124 Moby Grape – Moby Grape
125 Janis Joplin – Pearl
126 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Catch A Fire
127 The Byrds – Younger Than Yesterday
128 The Stooges – Raw Power
129 Talking Heads – Remain in Light
130 Television – Marquee Moon
131 Black Sabbath – Paranoid
132 Various Artists – Saturday Night Fever
133 Bruce Springsteen – The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle
134 The Notorious B.I.G. – Ready to Die
135 Pavement – Slanted and Enchanted
136 Elton John – Greatest Hits
137 The Replacements – Tim
138 Dr. Dre – The Chronic
139 The Meters – Rejuvenation
140 Blondie – Parallel Lines
141 B.B. King – Live At The Regal
142 Phil Spector – A Christmas Gift for You from Phil Spector
143 Dr. John – Gris-Gris
144 N.W.A – Straight Outta Compton
145 Steely Dan – Aja
146 Jefferson Airplane – Surrealistic Pillow
147 Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young – Déjà Vu
148 Led Zeppelin – Houses of the Holy
149 Santana – Santana
150 Bruce Springsteen – Darkness on the Edge of Town
151 NEW Arcade Fire – Funeral
152 The B-52's – The B-52's
153 A Tribe Called Quest – The Low End Theory
154 Howlin' Wolf – Moanin' In The Moonlight
155 The Pretenders – Pretenders
156 Beastie Boys – Paul's Boutique
157 Joy Division – Closer
158 Elton John – Captain Fantastic And The Brown Dirt Cowboy
159 Kiss – Alive
160 T. Rex – Electric Warrior
161 Otis Redding – The Dock of the Bay
162 Radiohead – OK Computer
163 Prince – 1999
164 +160 Linda Ronstadt – The Very Best of Linda Ronstadt
165 Marvin Gaye – Let's Get It On
166 Elvis Costello – Imperial Bedroom
167 Metallica – Master of Puppets
168 Elvis Costello – My Aim Is True
169 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Exodus
170 The Who – Live at Leeds
171 The Byrds – The Notorious Byrd Brothers
172 Rod Stewart – Every Picture Tells A Story
173 Todd Rundgren – Something/Anything?
174 Bob Dylan – Desire
175 Carpenters – Close To You
176 Aerosmith – Rocks
177 Funkadelic – One Nation Under A Groove
178 Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions – The Anthology 1961-1977
179 ABBA – The Definitive Collection
180 The Rolling Stones – The Rolling Stones, Now!
181 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Natty Dread
182 Fleetwood Mac – Fleetwood Mac
183 Willie Nelson – Red Headed Stranger
184 +94 Madonna – The Immaculate Collection
185 The Stooges – The Stooges
186 Sly & The Family Stone – FRESH
187 Peter Gabriel – So
188 Buffalo Springfield – Buffalo Springfield Again
189 Quicksilver Messenger Service – Happy Trails
190 Elvis Presley – From Elvis In Memphis
191 The Stooges – Funhouse
192 The Flying Burrito Brothers – The Gilded Palace Of Sin
193 Green Day – Dookie
194 Lou Reed – Transformer
195 John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers – Blues Breakers
196 Various Artists – Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era, 1965-1968
197 R.E.M. – Murmur
198 Little Walter – The Best of Little Walter
199 +168 The Strokes – Is This It
200 AC/DC – Highway to Hell

FRED HALE SR. 03-05-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293953)
Michael Jackson at 35? :/ Lol **** the popularity and album sales ..talent wise he deserves to be in the top 20..Don't forget about the Jackson 5 era **** either.

Talent wise he doesn't deserve to be in the top 20. Popularity and album sales is where he probably deserves top ten, you've got it all backwards. And I much prefer the Jackson 5 because they were backed by motown. And I still consider Off The Wall a great album and loved Jones production on the album, but MJ certainly isn't top 20 material.

FRED HALE SR. 03-05-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293956)
:) That's the only album by her I recognized and listened through..maybe I'm missing out on something else.
Do you agree with this?
500 Greatest Albums of All Time | Rolling Stone
Here's 1-200
Spoiler for long list:
1 The Beatles – Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
2 The Beach Boys – Pet Sounds
3 The Beatles – Revolver
4 Bob Dylan – Highway 61 Revisited
5 The Beatles – Rubber Soul
6 Marvin Gaye – What's Going On
7 The Rolling Stones – Exile on Main Street
8 The Clash – London Calling
9 Bob Dylan – Blonde on Blonde
10 The Beatles – The Beatles
11 NEW Elvis Presley – Sunrise
12 Miles Davis – Kind of Blue
13 The Velvet Underground – The Velvet Underground & Nico
14 The Beatles – Abbey Road
15 The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Are You Experienced
16 Bob Dylan – Blood on the Tracks
17 Nirvana – Nevermind
18 Bruce Springsteen – Born to Run
19 Van Morrison – Astral Weeks
20 Michael Jackson – Thriller
21 Chuck Berry – The Great Twenty-Eight
22 NEW Robert Johnson – The Complete Recordings
23 John Lennon – John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
24 Stevie Wonder – Innervisions
25 James Brown – Live At The Apollo
26 Fleetwood Mac – Rumours
27 U2 – The Joshua Tree
28 The Who – Who's Next
29 Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin
30 Joni Mitchell – Blue
31 Bob Dylan – Bringing It All Back Home
32 The Rolling Stones – Let It Bleed
33 Ramones – Ramones
34 The Band – Music From Big Pink
35 David Bowie – The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
36 Carole King – Tapestry
37 Eagles – Hotel California
38 Muddy Waters – The Anthology: 1947-1972
39 The Beatles – Please Please Me
40 Love – Forever Changes
41 Sex Pistols – Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols
42 The Doors – The Doors
43 Pink Floyd – The Dark Side of the Moon
44 Patti Smith – Horses
45 The Band – The Band
46 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Legend
47 John Coltrane – A Love Supreme
48 Public Enemy – It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
49 The Allman Brothers Band – At Fillmore East
50 Little Richard – Here's Little Richard
51 Simon & Garfunkel – Bridge Over Troubled Waters
52 Al Green – Greatest Hits
53 The Beatles – Meet the Beatles!
54 Ray Charles – The Birth of Soul: The Complete Atlantic Rhythm and Blues Recordings 1952-1959
55 The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Electric Ladyland
56 Elvis Presley – Elvis Presley
57 Stevie Wonder – Songs In The Key Of Life
58 The Rolling Stones – Beggars Banquet
59 NEW Creedence Clearwater Revival – Chronicle
60 Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band – Trout Mask Replica
61 Sly & The Family Stone – Greatest Hits
62 Guns N' Roses – Appetite for Destruction
63 U2 – Achtung Baby
64 The Rolling Stones – Sticky Fingers
65 Phil Spector – Back to Mono (1958-1969)
66 Van Morrison – Moondance
67 +361 Radiohead – Kid A
68 Michael Jackson – Off the Wall
69 Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin IV
70 Billy Joel – The Stranger
71 +10 Paul Simon – Graceland
72 Curtis Mayfield – Superfly
73 Led Zeppelin – Physical Graffiti
74 Neil Young – After the Gold Rush
75 James Brown – Star Time
76 Prince – Purple Rain
77 AC/DC – Back in Black
78 Otis Redding – Otis Blue
79 Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin II
80 John Lennon – Imagine
81 The Clash – The Clash
82 Neil Young – Harvest
83 The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Axis: Bold As Love
84 Aretha Franklin – I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You
85 Aretha Franklin – Lady Soul
86 Bruce Springsteen – Born in the U.S.A.
87 Pink Floyd – The Wall
88 Johnny Cash – At Folsom Prison
89 Dusty Springfield – Dusty In Memphis
90 Stevie Wonder – Talking Book
91 Elton John – Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
92 Buddy Holly & The Crickets – 20 Golden Greats
93 Prince – Sign 'O' The Times
94 +35 Hank Williams – 40 Greatest Hits
95 Miles Davis – Bitches Brew
96 The Who – Tommy
97 Bob Dylan – The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
98 Elvis Costello – This Year's Model
99 Sly & The Family Stone – There's a Riot Goin' On
100 -20 The Zombies – Odessey and Oracle

101 Frank Sinatra – In the Wee Small Hours
102 Cream – Fresh Cream
103 John Coltrane – Giant Steps
104 James Taylor – Sweet Baby James
105 Ray Charles – Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music
106 Ramones – Rocket to Russia
107 Sam Cooke – Portrait of a Legend 1951-1964
108 David Bowie – Hunky Dory
109 The Rolling Stones – Aftermath
110 The Velvet Underground – Loaded
111 Radiohead – The Bends
112 +15 The Mamas & The Papas – If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears
113 Joni Mitchell – Court and Spark
114 Cream – Disraeli Gears
115 The Who – The Who Sell Out
116 The Rolling Stones – Out of Our Heads
117 Derek and The Dominos – Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs
118 NEW Kanye West – Late Registration
119 Etta James – At Last!
120 The Byrds – Sweetheart Of The Rodeo
121 Sly & The Family Stone – Stand!
122 Jimmy Cliff – The Harder They Come
123 Run-D.M.C. – Raising Hell
124 Moby Grape – Moby Grape
125 Janis Joplin – Pearl
126 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Catch A Fire
127 The Byrds – Younger Than Yesterday
128 The Stooges – Raw Power
129 Talking Heads – Remain in Light
130 Television – Marquee Moon
131 Black Sabbath – Paranoid
132 Various Artists – Saturday Night Fever
133 Bruce Springsteen – The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle
134 The Notorious B.I.G. – Ready to Die
135 Pavement – Slanted and Enchanted
136 Elton John – Greatest Hits
137 The Replacements – Tim
138 Dr. Dre – The Chronic
139 The Meters – Rejuvenation
140 Blondie – Parallel Lines
141 B.B. King – Live At The Regal
142 Phil Spector – A Christmas Gift for You from Phil Spector
143 Dr. John – Gris-Gris
144 N.W.A – Straight Outta Compton
145 Steely Dan – Aja
146 Jefferson Airplane – Surrealistic Pillow
147 Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young – Déjà Vu
148 Led Zeppelin – Houses of the Holy
149 Santana – Santana
150 Bruce Springsteen – Darkness on the Edge of Town
151 NEW Arcade Fire – Funeral
152 The B-52's – The B-52's
153 A Tribe Called Quest – The Low End Theory
154 Howlin' Wolf – Moanin' In The Moonlight
155 The Pretenders – Pretenders
156 Beastie Boys – Paul's Boutique
157 Joy Division – Closer
158 Elton John – Captain Fantastic And The Brown Dirt Cowboy
159 Kiss – Alive
160 T. Rex – Electric Warrior
161 Otis Redding – The Dock of the Bay
162 Radiohead – OK Computer
163 Prince – 1999
164 +160 Linda Ronstadt – The Very Best of Linda Ronstadt
165 Marvin Gaye – Let's Get It On
166 Elvis Costello – Imperial Bedroom
167 Metallica – Master of Puppets
168 Elvis Costello – My Aim Is True
169 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Exodus
170 The Who – Live at Leeds
171 The Byrds – The Notorious Byrd Brothers
172 Rod Stewart – Every Picture Tells A Story
173 Todd Rundgren – Something/Anything?
174 Bob Dylan – Desire
175 Carpenters – Close To You
176 Aerosmith – Rocks
177 Funkadelic – One Nation Under A Groove
178 Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions – The Anthology 1961-1977
179 ABBA – The Definitive Collection
180 The Rolling Stones – The Rolling Stones, Now!
181 Bob Marley & The Wailers – Natty Dread
182 Fleetwood Mac – Fleetwood Mac
183 Willie Nelson – Red Headed Stranger
184 +94 Madonna – The Immaculate Collection
185 The Stooges – The Stooges
186 Sly & The Family Stone – FRESH
187 Peter Gabriel – So
188 Buffalo Springfield – Buffalo Springfield Again
189 Quicksilver Messenger Service – Happy Trails
190 Elvis Presley – From Elvis In Memphis
191 The Stooges – Funhouse
192 The Flying Burrito Brothers – The Gilded Palace Of Sin
193 Green Day – Dookie
194 Lou Reed – Transformer
195 John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers – Blues Breakers
196 Various Artists – Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era, 1965-1968
197 R.E.M. – Murmur
198 Little Walter – The Best of Little Walter
199 +168 The Strokes – Is This It
200 AC/DC – Highway to Hell


Good God London Calling in the top ten, shoot me now.

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1293958)
Talent wise he doesn't deserve to be in the top 20. Popularity and album sales is where he probably deserves top ten, you've got it all backwards. And I much prefer the Jackson 5 because they were backed by motown. And I still consider Off The Wall a great album and loved Jones production on the album, but MJ certainly isn't top 20 material.

You've said some **** earlier that I agree with but you took a step forward then 2 steps back as I expected. Smh Shame on you...Off The Wall was a decent disco album with some major hits but it had 4 duds and was a 10 song album (so only 6 songs worth listening to) so that's all that needs to be said about that.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-05-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293956)
:) That's the only album by her I recognized and listened through..maybe I'm missing out on something else.
Do you agree with this?

Do you really think she'd be considered one of the best female singers of all time based on one album?

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1293961)
Do you really think she'd be considered one of the best female singers of all time based on one album?

Lady Soul and maybe one more album but I seriously don't know her music well enough to further discuss this. If you're familiar with her work then recommend me a song or album to check out ..This is her best song as far as I'm concerned (and from the little I heard)

Aretha Franklin-Until You Come Back To Me - YouTube

FRED HALE SR. 03-05-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293960)
You've said some **** earlier that I agree with but you took a step forward then 2 steps back as I expected. Smh Shame on you...Off The Wall was a decent disco album with some major hits but it had 4 duds and was a 10 song album (so only 6 songs worth listening to) so that's all that needs to be said about that.

Yeah i'll see if i can muster any caring for what you think next before posting. I think Off The Wall was his only saving grace so we certainly do disagree. I'll take those 4 duds you speak of and you can have thriller and beat it.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-05-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293962)
Lady Soul and maybe one more album but I seriously don't know her music well enough to further discuss this. If you're familiar with her work then recommend me a song or album to check out ..This is her best song as far as I'm concerned (and from the little I heard)

If you've heard her sing, even if it's only a couple of albums and you don't get why she's considered one of the best then I really don't see that you'll be able to get it no matter what I throw at you. Forget albums, forget singles just listen to the voice.

CrazyVegn 03-05-2013 04:29 PM

Too lazy to see what all that list consists of, but I disagree with anything super positive about the Beatles which has angered a lot of people. I don't hate them by any means, but don't care for their sound. Too happy (even their sad songs). Not enough bass, groove, smoothness, depth or production IMO. Sounds raw or live like a lot of Elvis' stuff probably because it was before a lot of technology. If I had my own list I would put Elvis probably in top 10 objectively bc I don't consider myself a fan of his but I recognize it IS / WAS good perhaps because he was accused of copying many unknown black artists in the day. In order to be objectively fair I would have to also include the Beatles bc I recognize hard work, creativity, and melodious talent there. A private list of mine would not include either, though.

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1293970)
If you've heard her sing, even if it's only a couple of albums and you don't get why she's considered one of the best then I really don't see that you'll be able to get it no matter what I throw at you. Forget albums, forget singles just listen to the voice.

She has a awesome voice but so does Amy Winehouse/ Sade...That doesn't mean they deserve to be on the list either. (They aren't) It's not always about the voice..Bob Dylan is number 2 on the list and his voice isn't the prettiest thing we've heard. (It's the power behind words that hit home with me.)

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-05-2013 04:37 PM

Do you really think all those albums are listed for the same reason?

CrazyVegn 03-05-2013 04:37 PM

I have a hard time appreciating Bob Dylan as well (just got a 2nd glance @ that link and saw him there). If it wasn't for the harmonica @ the end of Don't Think Twice It's All Right I might love that song even despite his voice.

FRED HALE SR. 03-05-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293973)
She has a awesome voice but so does Amy Winehouse/ Sade...That doesn't mean they deserve to be on the list either. (They aren't) It's not always about the voice..Bob Dylan is number 2 on the list and his voice isn't the prettiest thing we've heard. (It's the power behind words that hit home with me.)

Yeah but they didn't have a career that spanned 50 years with 17 top ten singles either. You don't have 17 top ten singles without great records and that great voice you speak of.

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1293975)
Do you really think all those albums are listed for the same reason?

Which albums in the list did you feel deserve to be higher/lower?

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1293979)
Yeah but they didn't have a career that spanned 50 years with 17 top ten singles either. You don't have 17 top ten singles without great records and that great voice you speak of.

You're right but if you want to talk about longevity and top ten singles I can list a few artist and counter your argument. :p

FRED HALE SR. 03-05-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293985)
You're right but if you want to talk about longevity and top ten singles I can list a few artist and counter your argument. :p

Well be my guest. I'm sure any one of them would agree with our assessment of Aretha Franklin.

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1293986)
Well be my guest. I'm sure any one of them would agree with our assessment of Aretha Franklin.

:finger:
Who in the list did you feel deserved to be higher than they were placed? (It's obvious you know about music I just want to hear your opinion.)

Jeff_T 03-05-2013 05:00 PM

Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Artists of All Time
 
I think they should have included Picasso, Leonardo da Vinci, Shakespeare, and maybe even Bach or Beethoven. Miles Davis at #88, just a tad ahead of Rick Nelson and a tad behind Eminem....interesting.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-05-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293984)
Which albums in the list did you feel deserve to be higher/lower?

I don't see what this has to do with what I'm saying.

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Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293985)
You're right but if you want to talk about longevity and top ten singles I can list a few artist and counter your argument. :p

I'm sure you could, but that's not the point. She has a great voice, she made some great albums at a time when most black soul artists were still very much singles based and paved the way for those artists to concentrate on making great albums instead of singles in the years that followed.

FRED HALE SR. 03-05-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293988)
:finger:
Who in the list did you feel deserved to be higher than they were placed? (It's obvious you know about music I just want to hear your opinion.)

I guess for me personally I look at it more as bands who dont deserve to be so high on the list. I think Nirvana being top 30 is ridiculous. I also think U2 being 22nd is way too high. Bruce Springsteen in the top 20 is a bad call also. And its not that I don't enjoy various music from all of them, I just find Rolling Stones top whatever list far too cookie cutter. I think Miles Davis being at 88 as someone mentioned is a travesty when you consider Nirvana was slotted in at 29.

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1293991)
I don't see what this has to do with what I'm saying.



I'm sure you could, but that's not the point. She has a great voice, she made some great albums at a time when most black soul artists were still very much singles based and paved the way for those artists to concentrate on making great albums instead of singles in the years that followed.

I at least think Marvin Gaye deserves to take her spot..C'mon he released four back to back ground breaking soul albums that did well commercially and critically.. It's mostly one or the other..
I still haven't heard any R&B albums that topped these..
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TheBlackMoons 03-05-2013 05:31 PM

I find most of their lists do make a good outline, but its impossible to make a list like this. Just too many different views and tastes out there.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-05-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1293996)
I at least think Marvin Gaye deserves to take her spot..C'mon he released four back to back ground breaking soul albums that did well commercially and critically.. It's mostly one or the other..
I still haven't heard any R&B albums that topped these..

That's great but Aretha Franklin had a similar run of great albums, only hers started 4 or 5 years earlier. Hence my comment about her opening doors for more soul artists to concentrate more on albums than singles.

NEWGUY562 03-05-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1294005)
That's great but Aretha Franklin had a similar run of great albums, only hers started 4 or 5 years earlier. Hence my comment about her opening doors for more soul artists to concentrate more on albums than singles.

Are you serious? What's Goin On is one of the most influential albums of all time that happens to also be a Soul album. It's sad that you haven't heard it because you're missing out on a masterpiece.
(Go listen to it and don't come back until it's over.)


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