CoNtrivedNiHilism

haha, stop making me out to be a hypocrite, a$$face. Ke$ha writes like sh*t anyway, and I actually think the guys in Linkin Park write better lyrics by a mile. Just an opinion I have.

How many songs does Ke$ha have an her albums that are about the same things? I'd bet the majority of them, and all that tells me is she can't have any new ideas to write about, so she writes about the same crap and that's boring. At least Linkin Park writes about a much wider variety of topics, not just a few topics. Not only is what Ke$ha writes about done over and over on her albums, but it shows a lack creatively when it comes to writing lyrics. Yeah. A band or an artists doesn't have to be the best lyricist to have good music, but Ke$ha and her lyrics just aren't any good man, or her music in general.

Shouldn't we debate Ke$ha in your thread haha?

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Ninetales

do linkin park really have a cookie cutter sound tho? nothing to do with quality but i can pick out a lp song pretty easily

CoNtrivedNiHilism

It's the term that came to mind initially.

But they really didn't break out with a style or sound that was actually new.

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The Batlord

Ke$ha's lyrics convey a cohesive persona for the most part that is actually quite distinct from her contemporaries. Since that's all she's really trying to do, then you could actually say that her lyrics are good concerning their intent. If your barometer for good lyrics is expressing profound statements of whatever, then yeah, you're not going to like her lyrics, but since that's not her intent, you can't judge her by that criteria if you're going to say that her lyrics are "bad" in any way that isn't entirely down to your own subjective preference for lyrical style.

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Janszoon

What is her persona? The only thing I'm aware of about her is that she wears sunglasses a lot.

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Two Spirit

Not much these days. They've changed their sound a lot since their Hybrid Theory/Meteora days. You can still tell it's them, but it's a much more mature sound.

Compare this song from Hybrid Theory (2000)...



to this track from their newest album, The Hunting Party (2014)



It's still their signature sound, but it's much more tighter musically, as well as cutting down on their angsty teen sound from their first two records.

I feel like most people jumped off the LP train a long time ago when they started changing, so the only memory they have of their music is rooted in their angsty stuff from over a decade ago, not knowing they sound so different in comparison these days. Their new stuff is honestly on par with most alt rock bands these days, but they're sort of cursed in the sense that everyone remembers them because of "In The End" and "Crawling."

CoNtrivedNiHilism

The problem with your train of thought or logic here, is how they sort of already made Guilty All The Same before The Hunting Party, back when they put out Minutes To Midnight with their song No More Sorrow. There are similarities, and honestly No More Sorrow is a more realized song, it sounds complete where Guilty All The Same sort of goes all over the place and doesn't really sound focused to me. Even with In The End, that song is a more focused sounding song, despite whatever musical maturity was lacking back when they recorded Hybrid Theory. Guilty All The Same came off as an attempt to play music they're not exactly capable of playing that well, the song was ok and I did like it at one point, but it just drags on. Sometimes a band maturing doesn't always mean that the music they release will be more focused, sometimes what a band is attempting to do, can't be realized so the result comes out a mess, and I think that happened with Guilty All The Same.

The Hunting Party was a decent album, but I'd favor Minutes To Midnight over it, a more cohesive album. As a fan of the band, I'm not about what they used to sound like, I'm more about hearing them evolve as their career goes on. I think a band that sounds one certain way all throughout their career is a band that creatively, is crippled. It doesn't mean their music is bad, not really, because I listen to bands that have changed very little or not at all, yet they put out music I can still listen to, even if I get bored. Anyway...

Linkin Park has matured, I agree there. But picking apart their recent album, I still find a band that needs to maybe focus on areas that aren't their strengths so future albums where they experiment in areas they usually don't due to unfamiliarity, the resulting album won't sound so...unrealized or lost.

Get what I'm getting at?

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MicShazam

The objective in this thread is simply to state an opinion on some genre, band or musician that cannot possibly annoy anyone else in here. Manage to somehow still set off a heated multipage argument and you lose the thread.

So...

Michael Jackson was a very talented singer and dancer.

Key

Radiohead is the best band on earth.

Frownland

Merged.

Louis Armstrong is ****ing awesome.

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