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Old 02-24-2014, 08:09 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah, and again, try and convince anybody here that Arcade Fire, Vampire Weekend, MBV, NMH etc are only known by a few people. It'll be funny to see you try.

You live in your own little world and you only think the things you believe are true. "All indie bands are obscure" and "Amy Winehouse is underrated" are literally idiotic sentiments and both can easily be proven wrong by anyone with a brain.
Debate is fine but please tone down the personal attacks.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:00 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I don't know what you meant by bringing up Janelle Monae.
I brought her up as an example to illustrate a good point you made.

Just because an artist is on a mainstream label does not necessarily mean they will be mainstream or excessively commercial. In Janelle's case, she is on a mainstream label but she is not that popular. I wouldn't call her a mainstream artist just because she is on a mainstream label.


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I took a look at the wiki entry on her and it stated that she was on Atlantic which was bought up by Warner, which leads back to the big three. She recorded on a label (founded by Sean P. Diddy Combs) Bad Boy Records whose parent company is Universal Music Group - back to the big three again that control 88.5% of the market.
This supports the point that you made that I agreed with.

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Maybe I should also had said that time obscures an artist or band's popularity and that you probably wouldn't know or heard of every artist that is out now. You might know Monae, but probably not ever artist who has recorded on the Atlantic label. And there is so much music out there that there would be quite a few artists you didn't know, even on a big label, that would relatively be obscure to you.

I love Janelle Monae but I wouldn't call her a mainstream artist because she technically is not despite being on a mainstream label and I agree with this post.
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To be fair, I don't think 'Indie music' and 'music on an independent label' mean the same thing anymore, and they haven't done in a long time.
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To be fair, I don't think 'Indie music' and 'music on an independent label' mean the same thing anymore, and they haven't done in a long time.
Exactly. And the indie forum here on MB refers to indie as a vague genre of music rather than the status of whatever label the artists are on.
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Exactly. And the indie forum here on MB refers to indie as a vague genre of music rather than the status of whatever label the artists are on.
Exactly. A vague genre of music that doesn't tend to be in the mainstream. That seems simple, so why is everyone so angry?
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