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Old 05-10-2014, 09:31 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Yeah, some people can pull off that falsetto but when it's done badly it's awful.

On a different note, I cringe watching Foo fighters these days as Dave Grohl seems to have to yell "C'mon" " or "Lets go mother****ers" prior to every big chorus.
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:48 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Lyrics are as important to me as the sound.

So good music but bad lyrics.

Or great lyrics but terrible music.

The Who had a wonderful song and wrote songs like, "Love Reign Over Me." It's sometimes hard to find good music and lyrics. The music is great but the lyrics are cheesy. Or the music is average but the lyrics are above-average,
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:04 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Lyrics are as important to me as the sound.

So good music but bad lyrics.

Or great lyrics but terrible music.

The Who had a wonderful song and wrote songs like, "Love Reign Over Me." It's sometimes hard to find good music and lyrics. The music is great but the lyrics are cheesy. Or the music is average but the lyrics are above-average,
Well, as a counterexample of my own case, I know almost to a certainty that my brain can ignore lyrics as easily as a rat can humans when munching on their vegetables. This is partly due to some early prejudice of my own making which felt that musicians often don't know what they're talking about. Of course, there are others - Bob Dylan and Phil Ochs, when stripped of their instrumentation, somehow stand on their own very well. I guess in the end, it's a product of discriminating too often.
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:45 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Well, as a counterexample of my own case, I know almost to a certainty that my brain can ignore lyrics as easily as a rat can humans when munching on their vegetables. This is partly due to some early prejudice of my own making which felt that musicians often don't know what they're talking about. Of course, there are others - Bob Dylan and Phil Ochs, when stripped of their instrumentation, somehow stand on their own very well. I guess in the end, it's a product of discriminating too often.
Right, but Paul Simon, Peter Gabriel, The Flaming Lips, The Church, Aztec Camera all write great lyrics. They span from all decades and their music is great, in my opinion. But some indie outfit comes out with a groove (I am sucker for indie rock too much) but has either encryptc lyrics or cheesy or cliche lyrics. What a shame. But I know what you mean, sometimes it's hard to find. You have to assume not to find it. But I still have hope for it.
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Old 01-11-2015, 11:52 PM   #45 (permalink)
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When I say something about a song, and they ask ''What's the name of that song?, I might know it'' and i'm just like ''No, you really won't know it'', then they insist I should tell, and then when I tell, I get a weird face that says ''Oh, no I don't know it..''.
What the hell are you looking weirdly at me for? I knew you wouldn't know it!

Ofcourse you're not going to know a song by a pretty unknown band (in the grand scheme of things, unless you're a fan of that specific genre, which these people usually aren't) that's also not one of their popular songs. There's ****loads of artists out there, and even more albums, let alone songs.
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:20 AM   #46 (permalink)
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so you talk about a song.. and then get mad at people for inquiring about it. these are strange times we live in indeed
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:56 AM   #47 (permalink)
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When I say something about a song, and they ask ''What's the name of that song?, I might know it'' and i'm just like ''No, you really won't know it'', then they insist I should tell, and then when I tell, I get a weird face that says ''Oh, no I don't know it..''.
What the hell are you looking weirdly at me for? I knew you wouldn't know it!

Ofcourse you're not going to know a song by a pretty unknown band (in the grand scheme of things, unless you're a fan of that specific genre, which these people usually aren't) that's also not one of their popular songs. There's ****loads of artists out there, and even more albums, let alone songs.
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:59 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Yeah, some people can pull off that falsetto but when it's done badly it's awful.

On a different note, I cringe watching Foo fighters these days as Dave Grohl seems to have to yell "C'mon" " or "Lets go mother****ers" prior to every big chorus.
For me, it is hard to dislike anything about Dave Grohl, or Foo Fighters. It's great Rock N Roll, better than a huge chunk of other mainstream Rock groups. I will be seeing them in Portland, OR this October I believe, and if he yells c'mon or lets go motherf*ckers before every big chorus, pretty sure it'll amp me up and I'll be rocking out like nobodies business. I guess I should name a pet peeve of mine...

When I talk about a band I like, and the other person goes off on how much they suck, but then tell me they've yet to listen to a single song by them. It really makes me want to take a cinder block to their skull.
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:01 AM   #49 (permalink)
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so you talk about a song.. and then get mad at people for inquiring about it. these are strange times we live in indeed
No, but it's in conversations where specifically which song it is just isn't of importance.
What I get mad about is that I know they won't know it (which isn't their fault, way too many songs exist), and then they act really surprised when I tell them and they don't know it.
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Old 01-12-2015, 07:49 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Panning effect.

I don't listen to a lot of music that utilizes this but if I hear it anywhere I just ****ing hate it.
...You'd hate my music then... Um, not to be a pedant though, but do you mean when an LFO rapidly pans a synth leftrightleftrightleft and gives you vertigo? Because otherwise, any music not recorded in mono is panned.

If you took nearly any modern recording and removed the panning, it would sound all muddled and dense and hard to hear. Our brains like panning, because the real world has incredibly wide-spread panning of every single soundscape you encounter.

I love panning.

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Yes! Also, people who rhyme the same syllable line after line. 99% of the time that just sounds supid an unimaginative to me.
Oh God yeah.

"I love YOU,
Yes it's TRUE,
And I'm BLUE,
Without YOU,
Ooh ooh OOH,
Scooby-DOO"

Unless it's really creative. Some rappers can rhyme the same syllable or syllable set for thirty seconds and keep it interesting. Then again, those usually aren't end-rhymes, but cleverly syncopated internal slant-rhymes...

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tracks that inexplicably fade out before they should
Can't agree enough. Although, I hate fade out in almost any track. It may have been a clever way to cut song length well over half a century ago, but now it screams, "couldn't write a decent ending to the song."

The exception, for me, is music where the musicians actually repeat and fade, playing more and more softly and eventually dropping out. That, sounds like professional musicianship, pulling of a cool sonic stunt.

When the band obviously just jammed out half heartedly for three minutes which has then edited down to 45 seconds with a fade-out? Blegh. No thank you.

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British people who sing or rap with American accents.
So weird, especially when the native accent comes through. Not as wierd as K-pop with "American" accents, or really any sort of non-American pop with "American" accents.

The weirdest though, is that even Americans do fake "American" accents when singing in a huge swathe of popular American genres. My favourite is the Middle Class East Coast white boys who sing hard pop rock with a combination of Rural Texas and Newark, but speak with a slight lisp and an upward ending inflection...

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Yeah, some people can pull off that falsetto but when it's done badly it's awful.
As my mother used to say, "Just because you CAN hit that note, doesn't mean you SHOULD."

Interestingly enough, many times when female singers hit high notes, they are actually singing falsetto. It just sounds so similar that many people don't even realize female falsetto exists. Some vocal teachers still deny it's existence. Many times, this female falsetto is why female singers can hit really high notes that sound just as crappy as male singers singing falsetto frequently does.

That said, skilled male or female falsetto can be beautiful.

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...they ask ''What's the name of that song?, I might know it''
Yeah. This always happens to me when I mention a GENRE they've never heard of. You've never heard of the genre, yet you expect to know some weird song? Alriiiight.

My coworker who listens to mainly Three Days Grace and comparable stuff, always asks this, and is super surprised not to know some 21st century orchestral work, or 1980's spectral piece...

He's a fun guy. I like him.

Personal, biggest, song-ruining pet peeve for me though? Root-V basslines. You know, plodding, on the beat oompah-oompah, boom-chick type country basslines? I can be loving the track, and the bass player does that, and I'm done. can't help it. Hate it.

The exception is Beethoven spending a minute ending a piece with root-V-root-V-root.

Rant concluded.
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