Chula Vista

Fixed.

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DwnWthVwls

Whoops....

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Black Francis

I personally draw the line somewhere but i don't have the audacity to tell ppl where they should draw theirs.

I draw the line in ambient music an in certain cases, for exmpl a guy breaking jars in a room with cool echo might be to some ppl music but to me it's just a guy breaking jars.

However nonsensical reverbing human voices to me become music even if they're not singing and are alone.
If that very guy had recited something or even screamed in agony and it was captured in the right ambience i would call it music.

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Machine

Like it was said in the video I posted the question really shouldn't be is this music, the question should be is it interesting.

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ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.

Frownland

To open up the discussion again, what do you guys think about 4'33 by John Cage?

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Ninetales

Thank you, you rule. I need to write an essay on this next month and am still on the fence. I've always thought it was music, based on a pretty liberal view of "whatever you think is music is music". Don't know if it holds up tho. Could probably write a thousand words either way.

Tl; dr I don't have a god damn clue

Brad Stengel

You could say even using the "organized sound" definition, that it's just as, if not more organized than what most people consider music. Organizing silence can be more difficult.

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Frownland

What class? I could talk at length about 4'33. One time I had to do a 30 minute speech for a class and about 1/3 of it was about that piece. I'll post my thoughts on it soon. You can probably guess which way I lean.

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Ninetales

its an introductory music class. have a bunch of open electives to take now so I was like **** it may as well take music haha.

im guesing you think it's music. I think we've had this convo before too at some point

Chula Vista

Left me hungry.

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”