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Frownland 12-29-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterBaggins (Post 1530222)
Music is a sonic medium that sends a message. I wouldn't consider a speech music, or a poem music, but if it's noise that is created to be intended to be music, then it's music. If you drop a pan and ended up recording it, and then decide to sell it as music, it's not music. If you're dropping pans with the purpose of getting a message across, then it's music.

How can you tell the difference behind the intent? And if you've decided to sell it as music, isn't that a message in and of itself?

I must say though, that having a super liberal definition of music could easily lead me to tell the emperor how great his new clothes are.

Chula Vista 12-29-2014 10:29 AM

*4'33 is not music*

This, on the other hand...


Frownland 12-29-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1530233)
*4'33 is not music*

I had no idea you felt that way.

Machine 12-29-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1530233)
*4'33 is not music*

Why even bring this up we weren't even talking about 4'33", we get it you don't think it's music, it just seems antagonistic of you.

Chula Vista 12-29-2014 10:44 AM

I'm antagonistic? You're avatar is a dog trying to eat/attack his own tail.

F*ck off!

:D

Machine 12-29-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1530249)
I'm antagonistic? You're avatar is a dog trying to eat/attack his own tail.

F*ck off!

:D

:laughing: Fair enough, can we just not bring 4'33" right now, if that's possible.

AMenard 12-29-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1496621)
Thanks for elaborating. And you really don't have to stress that it's just a personal opinion, there's nothing wrong with it, although sadly there are lots of snobs out there who would say there is.


I wouldn't blindly buy it, but I wouldn't dismiss it because of it's concept and give it a try. I think I actually do have several albums along the lines of trashcan-banging and top-of-the-lung-screaming, although to my knowledge no felines were involved.:)

You bought the latest Yoko Ono album :D

grindy 12-29-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AMenard (Post 1530259)
You bought the latest Yoko Ono album :D

Screw Yoko, I prefer some quality screaming.

MasterBaggins 12-29-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1530224)
How can you tell the difference behind the intent? And if you've decided to sell it as music, isn't that a message in and of itself?

I must say though, that having a super liberal definition of music could easily lead me to tell the emperor how great his new clothes are.

I tell the intent by listening enough. After a while, I make a decision on whether or not it is music by closing my eyes and flailing wildly on the keyboard. If my actions cause something terrible to happen to my computer, it isn't music.

Frownland 12-29-2014 06:48 PM

What if you unintentionally make something beautiful?


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