Mondo Bungle

Everyone making music is just ripping off the first person to make music and Paul McCartney is ripping off Nickelback

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grtwhtgrvty

Is Paul McCartney actually ripping off Nickelback cause I haven't listened to anything he's made recently

Can you imagine

grindy

That would be just ripping off 4'33''.

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grtwhtgrvty

I actually think 4'33 is a really cool commentary on music. Idk if that's controversial around here.

Mondo Bungle

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Zyrada

... but it absolutely is true. To say something is derivative is a totally meaningless criticism in and of itself because all music/art comes from something else in some form. Jazz musicians even unabashedly steal from other jazz musicians as a core part of the culture.

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Overcast

I like how the thread shifted completely in only a few posts.

There was a huge debate about it here:

http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...-what-not.html

grtwhtgrvty

This is turning into a vocabulary lesson real quick. Obviously everything is inspired by something and nothing is completely and utterly 110% unique but the term 'derivative' doesn't mean "inspired by", it means 'imitative of".

Like Bjork's 'Debut' was really the birth of dance-pop but Bjork's 'Debut' isn't derivative of dance music.

Death Grips incorporates industrial sounds into their music but Death Grips isn't derivative of industrial music.

I think it made a lot of people realize how powerful silence can be in music, and how the absence of sound can, in of itself, be an element in the music.

Frownland

Death Grips is pretty derivative of this though



This too

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grtwhtgrvty

I don't think that even remotely resembles Death Grips.

Honestly when I listen to that I'm not really reminded of Death Grips - I'm reminded of Limp Bizkit lol.

@ The first one

I always sort of saw Blackie more along the lines of Hardcore Punk disguised as hip hop.