Is it possible to be an Original Band? (indie, genre)

Dezzy · 07-12-2005, 03:27 PM

Much is often said about succesful bands. Things like "yeah they're not bad but they sound a lot like the Beatles, or Yeah they're ok but it's a rip off of Queen. Is there actually a completely original band out there. Does it really matter anyway?

Electric Ocean · 07-12-2005, 04:19 PM

If there weren't any original bands wouldn't there be only one genre?

Dezzy · 07-12-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Ocean

If there weren't any original bands wouldn't there be only one genre?

I can't understand your reasoning. In one particular genre you might have several different original slants on it. Do you get me?

Electric Ocean · 07-12-2005, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I can't understand your reasoning. In one particular genre you might have several different original slants on it. Do you get me?

Yeah but most of the time when a genre has a new "slant" on it, it becomes a subgenre in it's own right and its original bands that make these genres.

Dezzy · 07-12-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Ocean

Yeah but most of the time when a genre has a new "slant" on it, it becomes a subgenre in it's own right and its original bands that make these genres.

I'm struggling to understand this now. Do you mean the original bands make the subgenre's or first genre?

BabyGurl928 · 07-14-2005, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Ocean

If there weren't any original bands wouldn't there be only one genre?

.....if there were no original bands there wouldnt be a god forsakin' genre, becuz original means first...if theres no first, how the hell are they to make one whole genre

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 07-12-2005, 04:41 PM

Yeah, there are original bands. Only thing is, it rarely gets noticed. Its only natural for people to prefer one type of music over another, and something thats completely different to what they prefer wont appeal to LOTS of people.

Hmm. I thought it made sense, but reading back over it.. I dont think it does. Oh well. Make of it what you will.

hookers with machineguns · 07-12-2005, 07:42 PM

Well, you can't say a musician is totally inauthentic because of their influence(s). Writers, painters, even politicians have influences. Even if a band say worshipped the Beatles and basically rewrote their songs, there is room for originality, just based on how they interpret a given Beatles song.

There's a lot of creative talent out there, I think AITA was trying to say something like this, but success has really nothing to do with it (damn trend setters). Maybe what she was trying to say was, people tend to stick to a certain sound and dont realize what's out there.

Dezzy · 07-12-2005, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns

Well, you can't say a musician is totally inauthentic because of their influence(s). Writers, painters, even politicians have influences. Even if a band say worshipped the Beatles and basically rewrote their songs, there is room for originality, just based on how they interpret a given Beatles song.

There's a lot of creative talent out there, I think AITA was trying to say something like this, but success has really nothing to do with it (damn trend setters). Maybe what she was trying to say was, people tend to stick to a certain sound and dont realize what's out there.

Going with what you say with regards to The Beatles. I have always liked them but still have not heard everything by them, but have heard loads&loads. I also really like Oasis and have heard every studio recording except the new album. To me they are similar in someways but not a rip off as ppl bemoan. They have thier own unique sound.
Certain songs from my favourite bands are clearly influenced by others. Take for example, I am the resurection - Stone Roses. I love this so much and think I'll never tire of it, in parts I can hear Hendrix coming through.

The Indie Bar Kid · 07-12-2005, 06:04 PM

Mars Volta are pretty original, which proves Dezzy's point, because most prog music is original, because thats what prog is really.

Otherwise most of this millenium has been based on copycatting 80s and 60s music, The Strokes=Velvet Underground + Television, The Killers= New Order + Duran Duran, Coldplay= U2+ Sleeping pills

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Dezzy Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Manchester (southside) Posts: 151	Is it possible to be an Original Band? Much is often said about succesful bands. Things like "yeah they're not bad but they sound a lot like the Beatles, or Yeah they're ok but it's a rip off of Queen. Is there actually a completely original band out there. Does it really matter anyway?

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ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,528	Yeah, there are original bands. Only thing is, it rarely gets noticed. Its only natural for people to prefer one type of music over another, and something thats completely different to what they prefer wont appeal to LOTS of people. Hmm. I thought it made sense, but reading back over it.. I dont think it does. Oh well. Make of it what you will. __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

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The Indie Bar Kid In Original Packaging Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: . Posts: 192	Mars Volta are pretty original, which proves Dezzy's point, because most prog music is original, because thats what prog is really. Otherwise most of this millenium has been based on copycatting 80s and 60s music, The Strokes=Velvet Underground + Television, The Killers= New Order + Duran Duran, Coldplay= U2+ Sleeping pills __________________ We must take all of the medicines too expensive now to sell, Set fire to the preacher who is promising us hell. Into the ear of every anarchist that sleeps, but doesn't dream, We must sing We must sing We must sing I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEATH AND GLORY.... And Im so clever But clever ain't wise

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hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,738	Well, you can't say a musician is totally inauthentic because of their influence(s). Writers, painters, even politicians have influences. Even if a band say worshipped the Beatles and basically rewrote their songs, there is room for originality, just based on how they interpret a given Beatles song. There's a lot of creative talent out there, I think AITA was trying to say something like this, but success has really nothing to do with it (damn trend setters). Maybe what she was trying to say was, people tend to stick to a certain sound and dont realize what's out there.