A Capella Wars

**Frownland** · 04-11-2015, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Sorry man they're both awful. Of the two, I hate Son House less so

Ralph Stanley - 0
Son House - 1

Those songs are incredible man. You seriously didn't like O Death? Damn dude, don't be sorry for me, be sorry for yourself and your taste in music.

This is a difficult battle for me, I'm going to have to think on it for a while.

Lisnaholic · 04-11-2015, 05:13 PM

Ralph Stanley:
In this song, I liked the touch of black humour when RS sings,"Oh Death, please consider my age; Please don´t take me at this stage" . Overall though, "Oh Death" succeeds too well in its dirge-like purpose; too sluggish, too depressing for me.

Son House:
Something about this song reminded me of good old Beefheart; maybe it was the occasional "Hoooo" interjections, or the way the claps punctuate the recital like the on/off clicks of Beefheart´s tape deck. Either way, this is the one that wins my vote.

Ralph Stanley : 0
Son House : 2

Trollheart · 04-11-2015, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

Those songs are incredible man. You seriously didn't like O Death? Damn dude, don't be sorry for me, be sorry for yourself and your taste in music.

This is a difficult battle for me, I'm going to have to think on it for a while.

O death was, as Lisna has said, awfully depressing and I found it boring beyond belief. I actually like Son House, but didn't like this particular song.

There's nothing wrong with my taste: I hate your music, don't I?

DwnWthVwls · 04-12-2015, 12:18 AM

Ralph Stanley - 1
Son House - 2

I didn't like Son House much but that first song was nice. I don't mind the depressing lyrics.

ribbons · 04-14-2015, 12:08 PM

(Sorry for missing my turn to post an a cappella battle. I was not able to be online and post here last week.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Ralph Stanley:
In this song, I liked the touch of black humour when RS sings,"Oh Death, please consider my age; Please don´t take me at this stage" . Overall though, "Oh Death" succeeds too well in its dirge-like purpose; too sluggish, too depressing for me.

Son House:
Something about this song reminded me of good old Beefheart; maybe it was the occasional "Hoooo" interjections, or the way the claps punctuate the recital like the on/off clicks of Beefheart´s tape deck. Either way, this is the one that wins my vote.

Interesting you should mention the Beefheart connection, Lisanholic -- I can definitely hear it in Son House's "Grinnin'" and as a matter of fact, can hear it as well in Ralph Stanley's "O Death". (Note: witness R. Stanley's/The Bootleggers' cover of "Sure 'Nuff 'N' Yes" on the Lawless soundtrack.) These two are actually close for me, but I'm selecting Son House for the playful handclaps which are a good foil to the paranoid lyrics.

Ralph Stanley - 1
Son House - 3

**Frownland** · 04-14-2015, 12:24 PM

On the song Tarotplane, Beefheart references the track pretty directly. He repeats a good friend is hard to find several times on that one.

I think that Mirror Man is pretty underrated amongst psych and Beef fans.

ribbons · 04-14-2015, 12:57 PM

Forgot about "Tarotplane" referencing that line. I have Mirror Man Sessions but haven't listened to it in a long time - very tired today, so I probably should listen to "Moody Liz (Take 8)".

Lisnaholic · 04-15-2015, 06:36 AM

ribbons, Frownland : thanks for passing on those connections and references. How well informed you both are ! I will be checking up on that cover version of Sure 'Nuff and may revisit Tarotplane too.

( For my ignorant self, Ralph Stanley was a completely new name, and I´d forgotten that "good friend" line in Tarotplane. My excuse for the latter is that I probably haven´t played that album for about thirty years. In fact, at that time I found it a bit disappointing; it didn´t have the punch and power of Strictly Personal, and the repetitive lyrics were a let down after hearing (on TMR) what the Beef would later become capable of. Still, if it gets Frownland´s seal of approval, I´d better give it another chance! )

Pet_Sounds · 04-15-2015, 06:48 AM

Ralph Stanley - 1
Son House - 4

This discussion has convinced me to give Beefheart a shot. Should I start with TMR?

**Frownland** · 04-15-2015, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

Ralph Stanley - 1
Son House - 4

This discussion has convinced me to give Beefheart a shot. Should I start with TMR?

I love TMR, but Safe as Milk is usually the best place to start.

This is the first place that I heard the Stanley song:

04-11-2015, 05:13 PM	#72 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Ralph Stanley: In this song, I liked the touch of black humour when RS sings,"Oh Death, please consider my age; Please don´t take me at this stage" . Overall though, "Oh Death" succeeds too well in its dirge-like purpose; too sluggish, too depressing for me. Son House: Something about this song reminded me of good old Beefheart; maybe it was the occasional "Hoooo" interjections, or the way the claps punctuate the recital like the on/off clicks of Beefheart´s tape deck. Either way, this is the one that wins my vote. Ralph Stanley : 0 Son House : 2 __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

04-14-2015, 12:24 PM	#76 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	On the song Tarotplane, Beefheart references the track pretty directly. He repeats a good friend is hard to find several times on that one. I think that Mirror Man is pretty underrated amongst psych and Beef fans. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

04-15-2015, 06:36 AM	#78 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	ribbons, Frownland : thanks for passing on those connections and references. How well informed you both are ! I will be checking up on that cover version of Sure 'Nuff and may revisit Tarotplane too. ( For my ignorant self, Ralph Stanley was a completely new name, and I´d forgotten that "good friend" line in Tarotplane. My excuse for the latter is that I probably haven´t played that album for about thirty years. In fact, at that time I found it a bit disappointing; it didn´t have the punch and power of Strictly Personal, and the repetitive lyrics were a let down after hearing (on TMR) what the Beef would later become capable of. Still, if it gets Frownland´s seal of approval, I´d better give it another chance! ) __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

04-15-2015, 06:48 AM	#79 (permalink)
Pet_Sounds Remember the underscore Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The other side Posts: 2,488	Ralph Stanley - 1 Son House - 4 This discussion has convinced me to give Beefheart a shot. Should I start with TMR? __________________ Everybody's dying just to get the disease

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04-14-2015, 12:57 PM	#77 (permalink)
ribbons Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,265	Forgot about "Tarotplane" referencing that line. I have Mirror Man Sessions but haven't listened to it in a long time - very tired today, so I probably should listen to "Moody Liz (Take 8)".