CoNtrivedNiHilism

I know what you mean.

It was hard to find any band from that period of music that didn't sound like every other band. Nu-Metal was a certain sound. And the bands that attempted to vary or differentiate from their peers, they usually only succeeded in sounding like something worse. I think some bands did at least manage to have something to them that others didn't; Korn did this, Staind did this, Taproot did this. Speaking of Taproot. They are another nu-metal band that is still around and releasing albums regularly. Surprising, but true. And they are still fairly popular.

I never thought that Staind would ever break up or become forgotten. They honestly had too much working for them to just go away. And that's been proven true because they are still here. They still play arena's and stadiums, sometimes even selling them out. I agree that the period of music they came from was the worst era for Rock in general, Metal. But some of those bands aren't fairly treated due to the period of music they belong to and came from. I consider Staind one of those bands. Staind was copied by other bands. And the result of that is saying Staind sounds like every other band when the fact is a lot of those other bands, sound like Staind. Same goes for Godsmack and the copy cat bands they have, as well as Korn, Taproot, Linkin Park, Dry Kill Logic, the list goes on.

Jared Leto is a good lookin' dude, this guy has no problem agreeing with you there. Hilariously, it is usually one of the reasons people list as why they can't listen to his band.

Oh, by the way. Creed is not responsible for the vocals you speak of. And I tend to disagree with people that say that the majority of nu-metal singers did what they could with copying that style of vocals. Layne of Alice N Chains will always be the guy that made that kind of vocal desirable in a heavy band, in which case is the majority of the nu-metal wave.

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grtwhtgrvty

What does Rihanna have to do with current pop tbh. She's just another derivative in a sea of generic sound.

YorkeDaddy

I can agree with this, vast majority of Foo Fighters does very little for me (wouldnt say i 'cant stand' them though) but this song is great

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Plainview

Well she's current, and she creates pop music, doesn't she?

Good examples though people.

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grtwhtgrvty

Yeah but pop is such a diverse genre. I don't even understand how someone can say they don't like current pop music. Did you mean like hardcore mainstream pop like taylor swift, katy perry, etc?

Plainview

Yeah, that is sort of what I meant, should've been more specific. I mean there's pop as in general popular music and there's the genre 'pop', which is debatable but to me is about simple song structures and lyricism, written primarily for a young audience in order to make money over any creative pursuit. Obviously their are so many exceptions to that, and plenty of artists from The Beatles and earlier prove you can create music that is both highly commercial and has artistic merit. I guess it's primarily down to the influences that music pop music draws on currently, which appeal less to me, than, say, those of the 60s, where Psychedelia, Rock and Roll, and Folk made up a large proportion of mainstream pop music. Nowadays we see a shift towards R&B, Hip Hop and Electronic influences, which to my taste are less interesting in a pop context.

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grtwhtgrvty

Oh I hate that definition. Also lol the beatles

dwill123

I cannot believe I like this song so much considering how much I dislike the band.

Plainview

Well I don't have a better one. Care to offer one?

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grtwhtgrvty

The Beatles are pretty much completely overrated and contrived, completely hypocritical -- a classic case of "do as I say, not as I do."

What about like..

Bjork
The Knife
Animal Collective's first album
Goldfrapp's first album

The knife especially. Have you heard Shaking the Habitual? That album is ****ing crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoH6k6eIUS4

The lyrics and the imagery are oozing with political commentary. The knife can be extremely vulgar, bordering on frightening.

I think all of those have a great deal of artistic merit, way more than any Beatles album. The Beatles is kind of elementary compared to other pop artists.

Perfume Genius's second album also, another pop album, incredibly moving and heartfelt. The most simple music you'll ever hear, aesthetically, but so much complexity found within the earnest delivery. So ****ing emotional, yet so simple. So brave, too. Pop isn't just for young people. This is literally someone who has been through some of the most terrible things a person can go through, trying to express that pain and to express a feeling of hope despite tragedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-41zNoRO1sI

Antony and the Johnsons,

****ing Holly Herndon dude, this crazy producer who is bridging these arbitrary gaps between the academic and the instinctual. She is a pop artist who literally goes on tours giving lectures to music students. She graduated from the same place that John Cage did. This is an avant-garde, experimental artist who infuses dance and pop elements into her music, and addresses her audience politically, challenging convention and pushing boundaries both in the pop world and the experimental world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHujh3yA3BE