Big Four Bands Thread Round 19: Gothic Rock

JGuy Grungeman · 09-13-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

@bat maaaaaaaaaaybe Heathen if they were more popular.

****loads of people. It's not uncommon at all for people to tire of strictly playing metal and turn to jazz.

Huh. Well, how many are as good as Skolnick?

**Frownland** · 09-13-2016, 02:38 PM

Seventeen. It's growing a lot since there's a good amount of bands coming out where you're not sure if they're jazz or rock/metal.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Heathen?! I love Heathen, but they made two albums. They're a band I'd rep as a fav thrash band, but a Big Four contender? **** no. At the very least I think you should make it to three albums before you should be in the running, unless your one or two albums just turn your chosen genre on its head by the sheer force of your inventiveness. And no, I don't think their reunion album counts, since A) it was released when thrash was over, and B) it basically sounded like a retread of Victims of Deception.

That's a weird criterion. Do as you do I guess.

**Frownland** · 09-13-2016, 02:44 PM

Oh ja, there's also Death Angel. Also, all of the hipster wankers might band together and vote Vektor in.

JGuy Grungeman · 09-13-2016, 02:49 PM

I'm gonna say it. Practice What You Preach is better that the Metallica debut.

The Batlord · 09-13-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That's a weird criterion. Do as you do I guess.

Would you say that a band with one brilliant album could be a Big Four band?

JGuy Grungeman · 09-13-2016, 03:04 PM

Sex Pistols made Big 4 of Punk. I mean, they only had the one album, but it's still perfectly legit since it's practically the best punk album ever.

The Batlord · 09-13-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Oh ja, there's also Death Angel. Also, all of the hipster wankers might band together and vote Vektor in.

Death Angel had a great debut, but after that they had diminishing returns. They've had some alright reunion ****, but in general have not lived up to their past potential.

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

I'm gonna say it. Practice What You Preach is better that the Metallica debut.

Go **** yourself.

The Batlord · 09-13-2016, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

Sex Pistols made Big 4 of Punk. I mean, they only had the one album, but it's still perfectly legit since it's practically the best punk album ever.

If they recorded it in 1979 then I wouldn't consider them, but since they were a first wave band that basically created the London punk scene they definitely deserve a spot.

**Frownland** · 09-13-2016, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Would you say that a band with one brilliant album could be a Big Four band?

Ja.

JGuy Grungeman · 09-13-2016, 03:15 PM

Didn't we recently have a discussion on how time period should have nothing to do with opinion? Either way, Sex Pistols would easily make big four based on just any one of the following:

1. Overall influence of the genre
2. Quality
3. Popularity

And with just that one album, it might have easily gotten in top punk lists even after 1977. Another good example is Refused and their third album, which got seriously good reviews. Refused reviews. Heh. But their first two were pretty meh in terms of all three criterion I mentioned.

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JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Sex Pistols made Big 4 of Punk. I mean, they only had the one album, but it's still perfectly legit since it's practically the best punk album ever. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

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JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Didn't we recently have a discussion on how time period should have nothing to do with opinion? Either way, Sex Pistols would easily make big four based on just any one of the following: 1. Overall influence of the genre 2. Quality 3. Popularity And with just that one album, it might have easily gotten in top punk lists even after 1977. Another good example is Refused and their third album, which got seriously good reviews. Refused reviews. Heh. But their first two were pretty meh in terms of all three criterion I mentioned. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.