Big Four Bands Thread Round 19: Gothic Rock

[Ol’ Qwerty Bastard]

I'm glad my hip-hop comment snowballed into this, I take pride in my work here.

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@JGuy

You need to add black metal to to the winners archive.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

That was facetiousness bro. I might not know what the "90's hip hop" sound is, but seeing as how we already have a discussion on what qualifies as a 90's band, and determining which bands have that "sound" would take up a lot of time and discussion, it would make the votes questionable. I'm not going to tackle that. Hip hop genres will be big enough for me to have my hands full. I'm not going to create some "list" of eligible golden age bands when people will complain about that as well. If people want me to separate it, I'll go with the already pre-determined genres that aren't extremely broad, such as boom bap, hardcore, jazz rap, pop rap, g-funk, cruck, memphis rap, instrumental hip hop, etc.

Plus, I see no point in limiting a big four of anything by decade. I can see why the Big 4 of Thrash is all 80's and prog is all 60's bands that got big in the 70'[s, but this is a game and it's not meant to be taken too seriously. ANd if I am takinfg it too seriously, it does feel like most people aren't taking it seriously at all.

No, you're just stupid. Go listen to the music and do some reading because you did not pass this test. You bring shame to your family seal. David Bowie is embarrassed to be in your avatar.

I reiterate
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_hip_hop

Seriously, you are making yourself look foolish out of spite, TH. Go watch Office Space.

[JGuy Grungeman]

Originally Posted by Frownland

No. Go **** yourself. You are dead wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_hip_hop

You're the stupid one if you're trusting wikipedia.

Quote that article: It is said to be characterized by its diversity, quality, innovation and influence."

So, it's known for how many different kinds of hip hop artists pioneered an age/era rather than a genre? The only things connecting them seem to be sampling and talking about militant control. But then again, this is Wikipedia. You practically chose the worst kind of website for determinng genres. I thought you were smarter than to trust Wikipedia.

"due to their themes of Afrocentricity and political militancy, their experimental music, and their eclectic sampling."

These are themes common in hip hop of the modern era as well as the 90'. Not to mention, the experimental music clearly denotes that they experiented with various sounds. And from the acts listed, not all of them fall under "experimental hip hop."

Not counting things like east coast hip hop, let's take a look at these.

LL Cool J: Hardcore Hip Hop. Pop Rap.
Run DMC: Hardcore hip hop. Boom bap. Rap Rock.
Public Enemy: Hardcore Hip Hop. As far as lyrical content goes, Conscious hip hop.
Beastie Boys 90's): Hardcore hip hop, rap rock.
ATCQ: Jazz rap.
KRS-One: Boom Bap
Eric B. and Rakim: jazz rap, boom bap
De La Soul: Boom bap, pop rap, jazz rap.

These are going off RYM's genre tags, which is way better in genre tagging than Wikipedia, or as I like to call them, CakeIsCollegeRock.com. You gave me the wrost possible site to argue with. Maybe because you're wrong? The only thing connecting them is hardcore hip hop or its subgenre boom bap, which is mostly a production based genre anyway.

By the way, I've heard most of the bands in that article. 90's stuff, or maybe late 80's. It seems to me the golden age is limited to hardcore hip hop, boom bap, and maybe jazz rap. All you told me with this is 90's Golden Age hip hop is 90's hardcore hip hop, which is limiting a genre to a decade. But if you want to desciribe the sound of the golden age, please do so. Don't bring up Wikipedia to argue with me. If you can't describe it or give me a link to a place where 90's hip hop is an offical genre, then forget it. If you want to do a similar round, I'd be happy to do boom bap or hardcore. But I'm not limiting to time periods or eras or decades.

I might do it for some special round at some point, such as celebrating the anniversary of a great golden age hip hop release. But you're going to have to do better than Wikipedia to convince me. And if I am OCDing all over this, that just means I'm actually thinking this through rather than resorting to one of the least trustworthy sites in history and then telling you to **** yourself. If you don't like it, I'm sorry you feel that way.

I'll considerr it, but only if you give me a good explanation of the sound or give me more trustworthy/less questionable links.

[JGuy Grungeman]

One more thing, you know very well insulting my intelligence pushes my buttons due to past abuse and scars online, which means you're likely attempting to anger me by using a semi-traumatic name. Although I am learning to tolerate being called stupid, if you call me that again I will report you. You just got out of trouble for causing a member serious stress, which scared him away.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

You're the stupid one if you're trusting wikipedia.

You're trusting nothing cause you're ignorant. Just stop already cause you're embarrassing yourself.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

One more thing, you know very well insulting my intelligence pushes my buttons due to past abuse and scars online, which means you're likely attempting to anger me by using a semi-traumatic name. Although I am learning to tolerate being called stupid, if you call me that again I will report you. You just got out of trouble for causing a member serious stress, which scared him away.

Do you spend time on tumblr perchance? And in Frownland's defence, mordwyr had sex with his sister.

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Looks like Exo might have to reopen #downwithfrown

[Frownland]

Yes I'm aware that you're too sensitive to handle any criticism, JGuy. That's not the same as PTSD. Why don't you go take a nap and look at the facts that you are admittedly not aware of once you wake up and are in a better mood.

Quit being a baby and come to understand that I use abrasive language from time to time to emphasize my point and that is 100% allowed here, you slippery skank.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Do you spend time on tumblr perchance? And in Frownland's defence, mordwyr had sex with his sister.

Just to clarify, mordwyr banged his sister, not mine. My sister only has sex with black guys.

[JGuy Grungeman]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

You're trusting nothing cause you're ignorant. Just stop already cause you're embarrassing yourself.

Did you read my post? I said I would change my mind if people brought up better arguments. All people have said was either "**** you," "you're stupid," or "it has a sound." In the last one, no one even told me what it was. Besides, the only website I've ever claimed to distrust is Wikipedia. Users here distrust about any website brought up. I've seen it constantly in the two years I've been here.