Delusions of Paranoia

I like a whole bunch of different things, but definitely not everything. There are more genres in existence than I know of. But I'll probably be open to listening to anything, depending on my mood, but I may not like it.

Terrapin_Station

I explained a bit of this in the post where I pasted my genre-preference list. I said, "[The genres are] divided up in idiosyncratic ways that reflect my preferences. There's some overlap because of this, and some genres are extremely broad."

All of the genres I list include every subgenre that falls under that term as a parent genre. And for the most part, I'm going by rym for genre hierarchies, simply because in recent years I often use rym as the core source for searching for stuff that I don't already have. So most, though not all, of the names I use on my list are what they are because of the way that rym names genres.

However, there are also some subgenres that I have a particular interest in, so I list those separately, because as I noted, the list I posted is literally what I use as my core acquisition guide. So, for example, I want to make sure that on each cycle through the list, I acquire some blues/boogie rock, some southern rock, etc. With something simply like "rock," I might not acquire an indie album on each go around, because rock is obviously much broader than that, and I don't concentrate on indie the same way I concentrate on something like southern rock. That's not to say that I don't have and like a lot of indie. I just don't concentrate on it in the same way.

At any rate, so "rock" includes EVERYTHING that falls under "rock" here:
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/rock (see the hyperlinked list in the second column; also note that many of those subgenres have subgenres of their own (and so on)--"rock" includes all of that, too)

And "jazz" includes EVERYTHING that falls under "jazz" here:
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/jazz

And so on.

Re "boogie rock," that's not my term. Here's the rym listing for it:
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/boogie+rock

Also, I don't only use rym as my means of finding stuff I don't have yet. One can find pages on "boogie rock" also on Wikipedia, allmusic.com, ranker, etc.

And for a couple genres, I use other resources more than I use rym. For example, I use progarchives to find progressive rock, RIO, etc. far more than I use rym, and I use Encyclopaedia Metallum (metal-archives.com) more than rym for metal. Heck, rym is almost completely useless for Latin, especially recent Latin, and it's difficult to use for world music, which I'll get back to in a minute. It's also not so useful for more recent jazz.

If you wanted to pick a genre name that's more idiosyncratic, you should have picked "club music"--that's from this category "dance/disco/'club music' (all dance-oriented/club music in other words--IDM, house, techno, etc.)"

I actually call all of that stuff "disco." To me, house, techno, jungle, dubstep, IDM, etc. etc. is all disco or "club music." That's what I personally call that stuff as an umbrella term. The highest-level, parent term for all of that stuff on rym is "dance," though, so that's what I search for there. Though I have "disco" listed separately because as with the other terms where there's some overlap, I have a special interest in the stuff that most folks call disco in a more narrow sense. Every second time through the list, I want to make sure that I'm acquiring some disco I didn't have previously. (Second time by virture of being on the same line with dance but being divided by a slash ("club music" isn't something I search for because only I consistently call it that. "club music" is simply on the list in that case because I like that term for it.))

Unlike "club music," however, most of the terms I use on my list aren't about what I call anything. They're simply about what other people commonly call something, oriented towards the goal of making it easier for me to find the sort of stuff I most want to find. That's the origin of "boogie rock" on there. That's not my term. That's a term that people use for some stuff that I like a lot.

Another example is this line: "nu metal/groove metal/funk metal/rap metal/rap rock" --personally, I think of all of that stuff as being the same subgenre. But the range of stuff I consider being "that subgenre" is commonly distinguished (by other folks) by all of the terms on that line. So on each run through the list, I search for stuff under each of those names in turn so that I don't miss anything.Here's what I wrote about the "world music" debate on another website recently:


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"I love the term 'world music,' actually, at least as long as it's understood in the way that libraries understand it. No other term I've encountered comes close to capturing what 'world music' lumps together. When 'world music' is avoided, what tends to happen if you love and want to regularly search for world music is that either (a) you've got to instead start searching for hundreds of very specific genres, like 'Tuvan throat singing,' 'Balinese gamelan music,' 'sacred harp singing,' 'Benzele pygymy music' etc., which is obviously a pain in the rear end--not to mention that then you tend to miss stuff that you weren't previously familiar with, or (b) you keep running into a bunch of 'pure' pop, metal, jazz etc. from other countries instead, which obviously isn't what you're looking for when you're looking for world music.

"The misconceived complaint is that it's purely a 'marginalizing' term. That complaint is misconceived because it ignores that there's world music from every country--like sacred harp singing, prison work songs, Appalachian folk music, Sioux Indian music, etc. from the US/North America, for example. That's all world music.

"The misconception on the other side is that 'world music' must then refer to all music. It doesn't. It refers to musics with folk roots (in the broader, anthropological sense of 'folk,' not in the narrower music-genre 'folk music' sense where we're talking about Woody Guthrie) that had and continues to have a strong regional tie, because it's not something that 'caught on' and propagated around the world as a type of pop music (again in a broad sense of the term 'pop'), and by extension, it also refers to music that blends those regional folk musics with more contemporary pop musics. The latter is sometimes called 'world fusion,' although some people--including me--prefer to use 'world fusion' for music that's more or less like jazz-fusion with world music influences.

"We could use another term like 'indigenous musics' or something instead, but the problem is that no particular term is popular enough on that end yet to be useful for those of us who regularly search for albums in the category."

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In recent years--the last 15-20 years, there are three primary ways that I search for world music.

(1) The New York Public Library. They have an extensive selection of world music CDs that are all grouped together. I regularly check out CDs from the NYPL.

(2) I systematically go through a list of countries and search for world music from each country or region (regions would be things like "The Caribbean." When I get to, say, Anguilla on my country list, I'm probably not going to find anything, so I'll search instead for music I didn't have from the region, from "The Caribbean.")

(3) I collect certain labels and series, like Folkways, Rounder, ARC, the Rough Guide series, the Caribbean Voyage series, Nonesuch Explorer, Real World, Shanachie, etc.--I've got a big list of labels/series that specialize in world music that I go through.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

If that was any longer I could probably submit it as my next essay for school.

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Terrapin_Station

There will be a test on it later.

Thelonious Monkey

Have you listened to all of Carly Rae Jepsen's studio albums/compilation albums/ep's?

Terrapin_Station

I haven't heard a whole Carly Rae Jepsen album yet, no. I've just heard a few tunes via youtube.

The Batlord

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Neapolitan

I don't care about RYM. It's like they make **** up and then you see terms pop up different place and think oh it must be legit, like oh it's on Wiki but that the page on Wikipedia is only a paragraph long, as of now. So you know it's something new and people are spreading bull**** to that site where it was never there before. It's just recent made up crap. According to another member here Bep Bop guitar players are not considered Be Bop musician on RYM. So I think that site is total bull****. **** that site as a reference and **** all it's bull****! Pretty soon that bull**** from RYM is going to spread and then every other band will be Boogie Rock. Maybe next week it will Led Zeppelin because of Boogie with Stu -- where does it end? Give it a month it will be Jerry Lee Lewis be known as "early" Boogie Rock. Maybe by next year Jimmy Yancey will be known as Proto-Boogie Rock. Seriously where does it end?

RYM?
No thanks.

Edit: forgive me for venting, but the more I hear about that site the more it gets on my nerves.

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Thelonious Monkey

The metal is making Nea an angry person.

Neapolitan

Yes, it was the 20 albums I was listending to for the Big Four Thrash Metal.

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