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Old 06-05-2017, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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In terms of change isn't it pretty obvious that music saw more important evolutions from 83-00? And if there is a stagnation does it even matter? 86-87 is the best time block from the earlier period but 2016 was the most incredible year of music during this whole time span (my opinions, obviously).

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Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
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Are you accusing me of being nostalgic or the last 17 years?
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I think he's accusing you of being a junkie.
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Are you accusing me of being nostalgic or the last 17 years?
Of course not. You have lived through those times in music, if i'm not mistaken, so you have a much better foundation for this kind of discussion. It was just a joke. I just read your post and immediately thought of the wrong generation meme.
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As far as personal taste, definitely '83-'00 as it encompasses the majority of my favorite metal, along with a ****load of other ****, whereas I don't much listen to nearly as much music from '01 and on. Any option that includes the 80s is pretty much gonna win for me.
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Of course not. You have lived through those times in music, if i'm not mistaken, so you have a much better foundation for this kind of discussion. It was just a joke. I just read your post and immediately thought of the wrong generation meme.
No offense taken. Nostalgia is obviously an important part of this discussion. Perhaps we're presently in a state of perpetual nostalgia. Or older developments seem more revolutionary to me because I was younger. What if we took another 17 year chunk 66-83? To me the first two 17 year chunks both saw more development. Maybe the obsession with newness and novelty became dull. Or maybe my hypothesis (stolen from Mark Fisher, btw) won't stand up to scrutiny.
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As far as personal taste, definitely '83-'00 as it encompasses the majority of my favorite metal, along with a ****load of other ****, whereas I don't much listen to nearly as much music from '01 and on. Any option that includes the 80s is pretty much gonna win for me.
To be clear I'm not interested in the quality of the music but rather the degree to which pioneering music came about. It seems to me that the earlier time chunk wins that contest hands down when it comes to metal.
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And Bat, since you did qualify your statement as personal taste, let me ask you, how important is whether or not a band is pioneering important to you? Is their something about breaking important new ground that makes the music more enjoyable than a fantastic copycat?
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In terms of change isn't it pretty obvious that music saw more important evolutions from 83-00? And if there is a stagnation does it even matter? 86-87 is the best time block from the earlier period but 2016 was the most incredible year of music during this whole time span (my opinions, obviously).

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The evolution would be like 77-81 because the break out of punk and hip hop then you have the effect of that for the rest of the 80's into the 90's (which kind of sucked)

So I honestly just think CBGB and Factory were major historical post modernist art movements that aren't gonna be replicated

But at the same time there's plenty of good music released on any given year
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