Show Biz Kids.....

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Both Van Morrison and Mark E Smith are idiosyncratic artists. I don't get the concern about which way they're facing, personally. I saw The Fall and don't remember him doing that on stage. Wouldn't have cared. I was at a ****ing Fall concert. I was ****ing thrilled. The Jesus and Mary Chain did that for the entire show on top of being hidden by fake fog. It was incredible. I saw both Sonic Youth and Prong give performances where they gave no pause at all for applause or audience interaction and I liked that a lot. Once I saw Sonic Youth another time and they didn't play a single recognizable song or use any vocals. I respected that it's Sonic Youth and seeing them do something especially experimental was really a treat but as a fan that was familiar with all their releases I also felt, and I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this, like they should have at least thrown us a bone. Like one known tune for an encore but they didn't even return for an encore. Dylan was the only one where I really thought like Christ this sucks. Because it did.

I maintain it's ignorant but whatever.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Re: Springsteen

Full on crowd pleaser but didn't he start refusing to play Born to Run ages ago?

This I do not know. I guess after forty years of playing it maybe he's pissed off. It would be a pity though as I'd consider that an essential encore.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I'm not sure if I hate the practice of an encore or artists that don't just conform to the practice

either way it's a cocktease and sometimes there can be a good 20 minutes of clapping before everyone realizes dude is already on the tour bus

Always waits till the houselights come up.

I wonder if anyone has ever been to a gig where the band played, finished, intended to come back for an encore and everyone had gone?

Now that would be embarrassing!

OccultHawk · 06-13-2017, 02:59 PM

Yeah

I thought about that when I posted it

I guess it's an inconsistency

OccultHawk · 06-13-2017, 04:56 PM

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This is the same mentality that killed Princess Diana.

Insert my predictable joke here.

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 05:19 PM

No TH, asking for autographs is like Princess Diana's death in every single way.

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

No TH, asking for autographs is like Princess Diana's death in every single way.

Of course it is. Silly me. How could I have not realised that?

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 05:39 PM

Harrassing celebrities for photos and autographs to flip them on eBay could be called harmless I guess.

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Harrassing celebrities for photos and autographs to flip them on eBay could be called harmless I guess.

Well, some people do that, sure, but a lot of people just collect them. It is, or can be, pretty harmless. At any rate, it's in no way relatable to paparazzi tactics. Don't think anyone ever died because someone wanted an autograph.

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 05:44 PM

Paparazzi tactics are fine too, since the two are one and the same.

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Paparazzi tactics are fine too, since the two are one and the same.

Um ... yeah ....

Look. as kids we all collected autographs didn't we? Well, most of us anyway. It wasn't a crime and it wasn't considered a dangerous or bad thing to do. But none of us ever ran a car off the road and caused someone to be killed. I mean, you can widen the focus as much as you want and say it's all part of (as I've said many times already) celebrity worship, but that doesn't equate the two. There are so many differences, not least of which being the intention or goal of the latter, ie to exploit people's private lives for money, that it seems unbelievable and unsustainable that anyone would try to say they're the same thing.

Lisnaholic · 06-14-2017, 05:58 AM

Thanks for the compliment about the thread, Trollheart! As you must know, it's not always easy to come up with a new idea - though you have done so often enough.

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That's so odd that you have first-hand experience of that, cos I read a review of another concert (or maybe the same one, though I doubt it) where the reviewer said that during the song "If" (I don't know it, unless it's the Bread classic?) a guy started whistling and Waters said "Don't whistle, mate. It'd be better without the whistling." Jesus. Come to a Roger Waters concert but do not under any circumstances show that you enjoy it and for Christ's sake do not participate in any way! Hard to see him doing a Freddy Mercury "way-hay-hay-hay" singalong thing, isn't it?

^ Yeah, that whistling must've been another night. Poor Roger; persecuted night after night by people determined to enjoy his concerts !

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I went to see him on that same tour. It was pretty amazing. Fortunately, he kept his mouth shut and just played the songs.

The entire second half were Floyd songs opening with Set the Controls... long time ago ... iirc ... great show though.

^ Wow. That makes you a lot older than I had imagined, Occult H!

I'm with TH, by the way. I don't think it's polite to turn your back on the audience for long. Maybe sometimes band members want to watch each other to check where they're heading, to co-ordinate some complex changes or something, but other than that it's very rude, especially for a singer. If you talk to someone, you show them the courtesy of facing them so that your message and gestures are clear. Being famous shouldn't entitle you to be so rude as to turn your back on the people you are supposedly addressing.*

[ * Unless of course you're in some genuine melt-down mode, as Ms. Winehouse was on one or more occassions I believe.]

No mention of Elton John yet, I see. Isn't he notorious for being obnoxious? Has he ever written a song about how tough his life as a millionaire rock star is?

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