Stop calling MP3s on the internet "albums".
 

We need to come up with a new term for internet based song collections other than "album". Albums should only be a physical object made from vinyl.

IMO.

Too convenient for anyone to download a bunch of samples, some cheap recording software, and then cobble together a bunch of stuff into a dozen songs on a site like bandcamp and then announce "I just released my new album".

Great for the ego, not so great for the legacy of real albums.

IMO.

YMMV.

We shouldn't even call vinyl records albums. Too easy for any schmuck with a guitar to sit in front a studio's microphone and tell a "story" (usually without plot, just a description of a sad guy's day). We must preserve our concept of nobility and create a caste system for everything in our lives or we will crumble.

Most definitely.

You didn't disappoint.

Wonder why we never called CDs "albums". We just called them CDs. Same with cassettes.

Sheesh, the royal "we" from the guy who calls me pretentious.

Would you extend your concept to books published exclusively on the internet or does physicality only matter for this instance?

Call FLAC whatever you want though.

There's only one place left for us old fogeys to go, Chula....
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The only time I have ever heard someone use the medium in which the music is stored on interchangeably with what is actually valued, you know, the music, is with vinyl. I don't ever recall someone in the '90's saying "hey man, have you heard the new Back Street Boys CD", it was always "Have you heard the new Back Street Boys album?"

Total old man rant. Humor me as a guy who once owned about 500 vinyl albums back when there were no other formats available.

I'm going to go start recording my next album. Stay tuned.

Yeah that's untrue. I would say "I got this album on CD". Of course I would at the time never say "I got this album on vinyl" cos that was all we had. But I still called them albums, and alternately CDs, usually to differentiate between the at the time slowly-growing digital part of my collection and the old analogue one.

But "a group of songs I just cobbled together and threw on bandcamp" is much harder to say than "album"

Oh ****, you gonna break some new ground and do some penatonic soloing?

I wonder if anyone made a similar rant when people started calling vinyl records albums. "Albums are PHYSICAL collections, not collections of SOUNDS. Can you touch a sound? I didn't think so. These youngins are out of control."

Which is why we need a new word.

"Internet Collection"
"Bandcamp Release"

The first two that come to mind.

Frowny, I'll stop leaning on my influences as soon as you put out something melodic, with no extraneous noise or dissonance.

I'm currently collarborating with another forum member on an "album". Wanna try a song together?

proof that people don't pay attention to anything I say

Here's a question though, what about music I have stored on my hard drive, in a file... that is titled whatever the album is called.... the songs in order of their appearance on vinyl... with some sort of image file of the album cover... is that an album?

To me, an album is a bunch of tracks of whatever description, put together with the intention of forming some kind of lose or meticulously planned whole. So if I sit down at my computer and come up with 10 .mp3 files that I intend to go together somehow. Maybe based on vibe, style or inspiration, then it's an album to me. Whether any physical sound storage medium or any real instruments are involved is immaterial to me. It doesn't feel right if there's no cover art to go with it though, but even a thumbnail would qualify to me.

All the albums I've made are albums to me. Given my idea of what an album is, there's definitely no ego stroking involved there. I wouldn't use the term "released" though. That makes it sound like I've had some sort of contract or something. But I will say that I've "uploaded an album I just made".

A lot of the time it was a status symbol kind of thing. When CDs first came out, you'd say "Oh I got the new Prince album on CD!" so that everyone would know you had bought it on the newest medium. This quickly became blase and so we all reverted to saying albums, but yeah, CD did enter the language as a sort of replacement for album, just as LP or record did for vinyl. Kind of.

How many more clouds you gonna shout at? Cryin' in the corner, eh? Mind if I join ye?

Yes. My iTunes and Google Music databases are loaded with hundreds of albums. Again, I'm just trying to create debate. It's not a black and white thing at all.

No, we really don't. You're makin' us oldsters look bad.
What did you say?
Of course not: it's a computer folder with digital musical files in it, or for short, a CFDMF! :laughing:

You know damn well this is ****ing retarded, Chula.

Why?

I'd post 20ish songs here but you have a very low bar for what's considered dissonant, so I'll just post something that came out yesterday: https://jesusthecarpenter.bandcamp.com/track/kerensa-2 Anyways, probably not a good idea to base your own music off of an artist you don't like :crazy:.

No.

Great point.

countless posts about hugely accessible and melodic songs he's made

That's really it right there. It's the content that makes it an album, not the physical form.

so is this an album

http://id3419.securedata.net/artnota...-artisover.jpg

This right here. The idea of creating a class system for the medium in which stored on or projected on/with is ridiculous. It'd be like accrediting the wall in which a film is played on.

It's plastic and paper, I'm not sure what else?

Yeah I agree with that. The physical medium is just a means to an end. In order to test the idea, something where the content is tied to the physical medium might be statues and artful pottery. But the difference between those and music is that they are exactly about shaping a physical mass, music isn't.

octopus tentacle

It's the definitive album.

Were all your friends girls in the 90s?

I am now legitimately anticipating this uploaded collection of audio patterns.

Are music people?

When will your new omnibus compendium be released?

BTW, This is a great album:

http://tinyimg.io/i/dRBizRV.jpg

"Album" has always been the word I used to describe the collection of songs, whereas "record", "tape", and "CD" were what I used to describe the medium. I might say, for example, "I have owned the album The Wall on record, tape, and CD." I don't see any good reason to not extend this usage to MP3s.

:laughing:

you should try it out

Na.

not you