Honestly yes, and I'm not just putting forward my own random choice. Alice Cooper was clearly huge for his time, but Marilyn Manson had a very limited time period when that sort of quasi-metal was valid and after that he was basically irrelevant and didn't have the creativity to keep up with the times. But ICP took everything Cooper did and made it into a movement using a personality that even Cooper arguably never even reached.

Granted, ICP had their own due-by-date as far as the mainstream was concerned, but had a basic quality and ability to evolve that kept them going for a far longer period than Manson or even Cooper, and has continued to be relevant to a far larger contingent than either other artist could ever hope to cope with. So I'd say that as far as cheesy shock artists are concerned, ICP wins kinda by a mile. And yeah I'm even including GWAR.

GWAR never got big enough to count, sadly.

yeah but that's all totally irrelevant. the question was who was more shocking, not who was more relevant or who was bigger. sure, alice cooper did it for longer. but during his initial rise Marilyn Manson was ****ing nuts.

edit - i hope nobody read this pre-edit, shocking typos.

True, but they had their moments. GWAR's We Kill Everything is underrated by metalheads just cause it isn't really metal. It's filthy as **** and "****in' an Animal" is one of the most hilariously filthy songs of all-time.

oh, and yeah GWAR are totally awesome.

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Honestly I don't think they ever really had enough of their own sound to really rise above the novelty of their live show. They're fun as ****, but as a band they were never more than decent for the most part. Oderus was really the most unique thing about them as a band.

Actually, he really wasn’t.

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yeah but the stage show was great. it's people who talk about G.G Allin. he was okay at best, but he made the most of it by being a goddamn lunatic.

convincing argument