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Old 11-29-2017, 07:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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And I'm gonna guess Qwerty or Aloysius.
wasn't me, although i do occasionally love myself some emperor.



how dare someone (elph) rec me a goddamn compilation. at least whoever it was (elph) rec'd me a pretty darn good one.

right from the jump it's clear this is the embodiment of hardcore punk, it's actually crazy to think this is from the late 70s. from the sloppy guitar work to indistinguishably slurred and mumbled vocals, this thing screams "we don't give a ****."

i can't say i have a ton more to say about it because at the end of the day it's the straight forward approach that makes it work and overcomplicating that would kinda just ruin the appeal wouldn't it.

strong 3.5/5

if it isn't elph i honestly don't know who it could be. maybe Nea as a darkhorse?

nah nah it's gotta be elph

i almost forget to mention how awesome the crowd interactions are. from telling off the audience, slamming the workers at the venue, and hearing fans scream insults from the crowd, it just adds a lot of fun to the overall experience.
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i really liked it but it was kind of a safe pick cuz you knew i'd like it, i thought maybe it was someone else cause that just seemed too obvious. i otherwise would've expected some weird post-punk **** from you.
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I got through an ICP album almost 4 ½ times. Can't be that difficult?
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I got through an ICP album almost 4 ½ times. Can't be that difficult?
Elph's a phony music fan who just likes us all to know how much he likes punk and post-punk.

And that wasn't an ICP album. I'll have more to say on that later when I get to responding to that post, but it actually wasn't one, even if Violent J is the more important half of ICP. It was really just an extension of one single ICP album, because they've never really released the same album twice... up till the ICP album after that, because after that they kind of just fell off and started milking that sound.
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Elph's a phony music fan who just likes us all to know how much he likes punk and post-punk.
He's in a monogamous relationship with punk and post-punk. It's kind of adorable.

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And that wasn't an ICP album. I'll have more to say on that later when I get to responding to that post, but it actually wasn't one, even if Violent J is the more important half of ICP. It was really just an extension of one single ICP album, because they've never really released the same album twice... up till the ICP album after that, because after that they kind of just fell off and started milking that sound.
I suspected that conflating the two wasn't going to fly. I got away with it thus far at least.
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not actually true and I've rep'd music across the spectrum

I do have favorite and least favorite genres though
I believe you. Not going to drill you on that.
I've got my musical blind sides too. Trying to poke them with a stick occasionally and see if anything's changed.
This week's album club was special for me, since it was a hip hop album and I actually kind of liked it.
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I believe you. Not going to drill you on that.
I've got my musical blind sides too. Trying to poke them with a stick occasionally and see if anything's changed.
This week's album club was special for me, since it was a hip hop album and I actually kind of liked it.
Glad you like. I almost recommended it to you in an earlier discussion as an example of how probably different hip hop is from your perceptions, but decided to hold off for the club.
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Violent J - Wizard of the Hood


So this is an album from "Violent J", not The Insane Clown Posse... except he's in that group and it's really the same thing musically and with all the apparent features from his mates, it basically is an ICP record... or am I wrong? I'm going to relate this album somewhat to ICP since that's sort of a connection that's hard to get around given that group's notoriety.
It's really more of a Psychopathic Records all-stars release (Psychopathic being ICP's personal label). Violent J is the main ICP member, with the other, Shaggy, being the Wizard, with the other three (the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Lion) being other artists on Psychopathic Records. But they would have been all huge personalities for the fanbase so that album would have been an event, ICP or not.

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Every song on this album is legitimately different from the one before it. There's a surprising variety of sounds, genre references and moods. Even the rapping occasionally gives way to something approaching a sung vocal hook.

These musical arrangements even get a little weird at times - dare one say even a bit inventive.
Honestly the reason I thought you might be a good person to rec this to rather than just a fun troll. ICP if nothing else have something odd going on, even if at this point they'd lost their best songwriter in their producer, Mike E. Clark, but he'd built such a sound at this point that they still managed to come up with gold without him. But Mike was still the best actual musical thing about the group. If I'd been more serious about this rec I'd have probably given you an earlier ICP album with him on it. Mike E. Clark is legit one of the more interesting producers you'll hear and he's helped to build ICP's empire with a unique and bizarre sound.

But even so the performances on this album are still odd enough that I was curious what you would think. And you gotta admit, "Homies 2 Smoke With" had one of the more amusing hooks you've heard in a while. Still one of my fav juggalo albums, just an album you should probably hear after a few more juggalo albums under your belt.


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Subtlety or nuance do not exist on this album. Every musical idea is right up in your face; comes at you like a frisky crack addict in a Barney costume and I don't feel like I'll "click" with this album, even if I heard it a thousand times.
But yeah, hell yeah. The upfront nature of the album is one of the more fun aspects. It doesn't try to be revolutionary in any sense, but it just tries to have fun while also being something you just don't generally hear. I guess if there's anything truly inventive about this it's probably cribbed from the preceding ICP album Shangri-La, which this is very much in line with and intentionally as it was sort of an era for the juggalo community. I think this album is just better and more consistent.

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Just before closing time, I'm starting on a 5th spin - hoping that perhaps I'll have some final observation to make. I'm certainly thinking that I won't be missing any of the vocalists on this album. Also, for a bunch of fat white dudes, aren't those "hood" accents kind of forced? I don't know... I'm not American.
Shrug. Kind of hard to figure out what rapper is faking it tbh. I mean all these guys are from **** town Detroit, so they're at least respectably po', but how much they're faking it I don't know. But they're obviously playing their voices up, cause that's just what they do.

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Thanks, Batty! I really hate that I didn't get to force you to listen to something on return.
An honest opinion not informed by internet bully posts is refreshing.
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An honest opinion not informed by internet bully posts is refreshing.
I hope most of my post managed to be that and not just that final jab at the end. But as a group, their reputation very much precedes them, so it's tough to just listen.
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