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The Batlord 11-14-2017 12:50 PM

Idina Menzel ****ing Appreciation Thread
 
As with many people my first and, until recently only, exposure to Idina Menzel was "Let It Go" from Frozen (which periodically gets in my skull until I have to listen to it on repeat for way too ****ing long to be reasonable), but now I've come to realize that she has a voice like a cozy, silk quilt on a cold, Sunday morning when you don't have to work and there's gentle sunlight settling on your face like another blanket, and an infectious personality that makes you want to listen to her over and over again.

She's been mostly a Broadway musical singer for the majority of her career (Rent and Wicked most famously), but yeah she was Elsa in Frozen and has a few solo pop albums that make me quite happy in an adult contemporary kind of way. Her latest from 2016, idina., is rather ruling my mind atm. If you can get into a woman with a big voice doing a lot of bombastic ballads that creep into your subconscious like cancer then my god is she the ****. And she was on Glee for a bit and I remember she was highly entertaining (**** you Glee was awesome).

Dear god, I'm a middle-aged housewife.








Frownland 11-14-2017 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1894419)
happy in an adult contemporary kind of way.

That's not real happiness.

Oriphiel 11-14-2017 12:58 PM

****ing ****

Trollheart 11-14-2017 01:02 PM

Jesus ****ing Christ. And you have the audacity to laugh at my music taste? You woman, you.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 01:13 PM

About what I expected from you ****headed ****s.

OccultHawk 11-14-2017 01:29 PM

I hate that ****. ****! We’ve always been cool but now you’ve gone too goddamn far.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1894472)
I hate that ****. ****! We’ve always been cool but now you’ve gone too goddamn far.

TRAITOR! You know "Let It Go" is now stuck in your head.

Frownland 11-14-2017 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1894475)
TRAITOR! You know "Let It Go" is now stuck in your head.

I've honestly never understood how that song gets stuck in so many peoples' heads. It just sounds like a regular ole track I don't care about.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1894479)
I've honestly never understood how that song gets stuck in so many peoples' heads. It just sounds like a regular ole track I don't care about.

Part of me agrees, but the other part has heard the song like fifty times in the past three days. I can't quite explain it, but god damn it takes over your mind.

OccultHawk 11-14-2017 01:45 PM

I’ve actually never heard it before. I couldn’t do more than little snippets. It sounds like a very bad like old Genesis. Like a ****ty LLDOBW.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1894483)
I’ve actually never heard it before. I couldn’t do more than little snippets. It sounds like a very bad like old Genesis. Like a ****ty LLDOBW.

It really helps at first in context of the movie. After which it helps watching a movie clip out of context with the movie, as it's visually fantastic but kind of doesn't entirely make sense in the narrative flow of the movie. Then you'll be ready to try to get it the **** out of your head by listening to the actual song on repeat. Like I said, I can't entirely explain why it's so infectious, but somehow it is.

Trollheart 11-14-2017 01:58 PM

I suppose I could be down with ****ing Idina Menzel. She's a looker. Or wait: is that the cartoon girl? :laughing:

OccultHawk 11-14-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1894487)
It really helps at first in context of the movie. After which it helps watching a movie clip out of context with the movie, as it's visually fantastic but kind of doesn't entirely make sense in the narrative flow of the movie. Then you'll be ready to try to get it the **** out of your head by listening to the actual song on repeat. Like I said, I can't entirely explain why it's so infectious, but somehow it is.

I don’t like the way it looks.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1894497)
I suppose I could be down with ****ing Idina Menzel. She's a looker. Or wait: is that the cartoon girl? :laughing:

This isn't just in response to this post, but basically anytime you see a female artist who's attractive you make a comment about how you'd bang them. I know you see it as a throwaway comment, but in the context of your greater posting history it's pretty ****ing condescending.

And no, this is not the beginning of a series of butthurt comments to all of you over this thread cause I knew full well no one else would care, but Trollheart is wide the **** open for this, I'm drunk, and I just feel like ****ing with him, cause, let's be honest, he deserves it. He's kind of a pig about female artists.

TBH I'm surprised this thread got more than two responses over the course of its entire existence.

Trollheart 11-14-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1894504)
This isn't just in response to this post, but basically anytime you see a female artist who's attractive you make a comment about how you'd bang them. I know you see it as a throwaway comment, but in the context of your greater posting history it's pretty ****ing condescending.

And no, this is not the beginning of a series of butthurt comments to all of you over this thread cause I knew full well no one else would care, but Trollheart is wide the **** open for this, I'm drunk, and I just feel like ****ing with him, cause, let's be honest, he deserves it. He's kind of a pig about female artists.

TBH I'm surprised this thread got more than two responses over the course of its entire existence.

TBH it's just a play on the fact that you called this the "Idina wotsit ****ing appreciation thread". Your fault. If you'd left the word out I wouldn't have made the comment. I don't even know or care what she looks like. So you have only yourself to blame.

Also, you're just as guilty of "hawt" and "would bang" comments yourself, so now who's being condescending? Huh? Huh?

OccultHawk 11-14-2017 02:19 PM

I’d **** her.

Jesus Bat

That’s like your weakness. You’re afraid of pussy. Or bought into this **** that it’s wrong to love pussy or something. So trolls sees a woman and thinks with his dick? Better than believing you’re not supposed to. #pussyneveroutofstyle

#notcastrated #millennialsafraidto****

The Batlord 11-14-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1894514)
TBH it's just a play on the fact that you called this the "Idina wotsit ****ing appreciation thread". Your fault. If you'd left the word out I wouldn't have made the comment. I don't even know or care what she looks like. So you have only yourself to blame.

Also, you're just as guilty of "hawt" and "would bang" comments yourself, so now who's being condescending? Huh? Huh?

Have you noticed how often I don't talk about Ke$ha or Britney Spears' looks when talking about them ad nauseum? Cause it very honestly just doesn't occur to me to talk about it cause I just want to talk about their music and delightful images, even though I'd happily bum both. And this is from someone who's completely on their dick and who has the PC culture of a retarded donkey. But you do it pretty often. Pretty often anyone talks about an attractive female artist and aren't into them when you're in the conversation you respond with, "But you'd do them, right?"

From someone who's gone on as much as you have about Vanilla, a human being who you know (internet-wise), or any number of other members of this site, it comes across as very condescending.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1894517)
I’d **** her.

Jesus Bat

That’s like your weakness. You’re afraid of pussy. Or bought into this **** that it’s wrong to love pussy or something. So trolls sees a woman and thinks with his dick? Better than believing you’re not supposed to. #pussyneveroutofstyle

#notcastrated #millennialsafraidto****

Bro, I love you and all but you're a pig.

OccultHawk 11-14-2017 02:57 PM

Why shouldn’t I be?

Frownland 11-14-2017 03:00 PM

Because treating someone with respect is more likely to get you laid than (literally or figuratively) whipping your dick out whenever you see a pretty girl.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1894517)
I’d **** her.

Jesus Bat

That’s like your weakness. You’re afraid of pussy. Or bought into this **** that it’s wrong to love pussy or something. So trolls sees a woman and thinks with his dick? Better than believing you’re not supposed to. #pussyneveroutofstyle

#notcastrated #millennialsafraidto****

So you think that TH is potentially going to get laid every time he makes a sleazy comment on here?

The Batlord 11-14-2017 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1894532)
Why shouldn’t I be?

I know you're an alienated as **** mother****er, but if you care as much as you do about not being alienated on this site, and don't tell me you don't, cause you do, then it's clear that you do desire human interaction, and women are humans, so it makes sense that you would want to interact with them as people and not objects.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1894538)
btw this music is ass

BTW you hate women.

Frownland 11-14-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1894541)
BTW you hate women.

Kind of like how a lot of our members are racist for not liking Janet Jackosn?

The Batlord 11-14-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1894542)
Kind of like how a lot of our members are racist for not liking Janet Jackosn?

Exactly. Janet Jackosn is amazing, but Janet Jackson is a twat.

Frownland 11-14-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1894544)
Exactly. Janet Jackosn is amazing, but Janet Jackson is a twat.

The Greeks>>>>>

OccultHawk 11-14-2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1894537)
I know you're an alienated as **** mother****er, but if you care as much as you do about not being alienated on this site, and don't tell me you don't, cause you do, then it's clear that you do desire human interaction, and women are humans, so it makes sense that you would want to interact with them as people and not objects.

I like interacting with people irl but it’s very rare that I actually care about them. Like I’m not going to care about anyone I meet or interact with anymore. Like if someone from work gets sick or dies I honestly care more about something like whether or not AC/DC is on Spotify. People I’ve know for over ten years I care something about. I guess it was about ten years that I stopped caring. I mean I enjoy interacting with people I just don’t give a **** about their well-being. I want people to think I care though.

I really don’t mind objectifying the people I deal with. At least, it doesn’t feel like I care. Genuine relationships are really uncomfortable, aren’t they? I’ve had enough of all of that. Maybe I’ll go back to how I was when I cared but it’s been a while.

That said there’s a few people I’m rabidly devoted to but they came into my life a long time ago.

Sometimes I get a little sentimental. I still play out of my league when it comes to getting laid. Women say **** like when I met you I never thought we would **** and it’s like well we’re ****ing so...

The Batlord 11-14-2017 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1894546)
I like interacting with people irl but it’s very rare that I actually care about them. Like I’m not going to care about anyone I meet or interact with anymore. Like if someone from work gets sick or dies I honestly care more about something like whether or not AC/DC is on Spotify. People I’ve know for over ten years I care something about. I guess it was about ten years that I stopped caring. I mean I enjoy interacting with people I just don’t give a **** about their well-being. I want people to think I care though.

I really don’t mind objectifying the people I deal with. At least, it doesn’t feel like I care. Genuine relationships are really uncomfortable, aren’t they? I’ve had enough of all of that. Maybe I’ll go back to how I was when I cared but it’s been a while.

That said there’s a few people I’m rabidly devoted to but they came into my life a long time ago.

Sometimes I get a little sentimental. I still play out of my league when it comes to getting laid. Women say **** like when I met you I never thought we would **** and it’s like well we’re ****ing so...

Dude, I'm pretty sure I'm somewhere early on that path, but I get it, I really ****ing do, cause I am also sick of looking at the human race in general, but viewing people on a cromag spectrum of what is this woman worth to me on a basic level is just a copout for not wanting to engage because you just want to nut like a woman is an oven. It's not about capitalism or whatever you say it is, you just don't feel like looking at a human being beyond the casual level cause you just don't feel like doing it after all these years of them rejecting you. It's honestly the most capitalist, exploitative reason imaginable. Nothing about where you are right now is politics, it's all about social alienation, and if I'm wrong I'll eat a ***got crow.

I see this happening to me, as in I actually see the process happening in real time to me, which is why I insist on seeing the joy in Disney movies, the Insane Clown Posse, and kitty cats. The simple, pure joys are what I see as the only thing to keep my humanity as I lose my love of the human race as a whole.

OccultHawk 11-14-2017 04:25 PM

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It's not about capitalism or whatever you say it is, you just don't feel like looking at a human being beyond the casual level cause you just don't feel like doing it after all these years of them rejecting you
I know you probably won’t believe me but I haven’t been rejected that much. I’ve done most of the rejecting. Everything repulses me because it’s all genuinely repulsive. And I haven’t really made many bones about it. The reason I hate capitalism is because I’m forced to live in it. That’s why I hate Christianity more than Islam and that’s why I hate America. Because those things are up in MY ****. Maybe there’s a part of me as nasty as the nastiest capitalist but I don’t force my **** up on anyone, ever. I settled on pacifism a long time ago and I live by it. It may seem incoherent but it’s not.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1894550)
I know you probably won’t believe me but I haven’t been rejected that much. I’ve done most of the rejecting. Everything repulses me because it’s all genuinely repulsive. And I haven’t really made many bones about it. The reason I hate capitalism is because I’m forced to live in it. That’s why I hate Christianity more than Islam and that’s why I hate America. Because those things are up in MY ****. Maybe there’s a part of me as nasty as the nastiest capitalist but I don’t force my **** up on anyone, ever. I settled on pacifism a long time ago and I live by it. It may seem incoherent but it’s not.

Maybe we're just that much more different, but the easiest thing in the world to do is to reject people before they reject you and to rationalize that position. I truly hate so much about modern society and capitalism, and I'd probably hate it regardless since it's just my nature, but I doubt I'd feel the visceral hatred for the idiocy and mental laziness of society if I didn't feel so alienated from it. I mean I have friends and ****, and I get along with my coworkers in general, but there's no getting around the fact that we're just on different wavelengths and that there's no helping it.

I'd not feel that way if I wasn't the type to feel that sort of antagonism to society in the first place, but the pushback from society has most definitely informed much of my emotional reaction to society, otherwise it would be a much more intellectual disdain. This has made me try as much as I can to take a step back and not take my emotional response to society at face value, and accept that maybe I'm just pissed off for my own self, but yeah, there's simply no way to get around the disillusionment that would happen regardless.

But maybe we really just are too different for our own experiences to educate one another. I don't know. But a lot of the things you've said about yourself have rung very true for me and meant more than just the words of some online ******* who's also depressed and ****.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1894565)
Imma let you finish but capitalism is genuinely awful

I mean yeah, but let's not pretend that our experiences with people in general haven't emotionally informed our opinions of the dominant economic system of mainstream society.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1894569)
consider the opposite though are most people really only satisfied with their lives because of the meaningful relationships in them

not their employment which on average they dislike if they're lucky enough to have

Whataboutism.

Frownland 11-14-2017 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1894571)
Whataboutism.

Dude that was a ****ing great episode. Oliver talking logic and fallacies automatically sets off the dopamine center in my brain.

Trollheart 11-14-2017 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1894522)
Have you noticed how often I don't talk about Ke$ha or Britney Spears' looks when talking about them ad nauseum? Cause it very honestly just doesn't occur to me to talk about it cause I just want to talk about their music and delightful images, even though I'd happily bum both. And this is from someone who's completely on their dick and who has the PC culture of a retarded donkey. But you do it pretty often. Pretty often anyone talks about an attractive female artist and aren't into them when you're in the conversation you respond with, "But you'd do them, right?"

From someone who's gone on as much as you have about Vanilla, a human being who you know (internet-wise), or any number of other members of this site, it comes across as very condescending.



You're just so full of it. I think I've made, at most, six of those sort of comments, all meant in laddish fun, in my six-odd (some of them very odd) years here. That's one a ****ing year! Whereas you, you pal, have been temp-banned for calling a newbie a slut. So who's the MCP now, huh? And I have no idea what you mean about Vanilla: we got on very well and she knew how I felt about her, knew I knew nothing would ever come of our friendship other than friendship, not to mention the distance between us AND the fact that I was not actually interested in her sexually. I just played that up they way you do, for laughs. You probably won't believe me, but you know what, **** you. I don't care. But please don't tell me I'm a certain type of person, because you don't know me. You know me on the internet, not in real life. Any woman I've interacted with will tell you I'm a nice, respectful, quiet guy who does not do sexual innuendo, unless as a shared joke.

If you check my albums thread, I've reviewed plenty of albums by female artistes, and I think I may have made an off-colour (and joking) comment once, about some K-pop girls. In my journals I doubt you'll find anything of that nature. I don't make a habit of saying these things; I do, like you, make these comments to fit in and for a laugh. Big difference to being an actual pig. So kindly don't lump me in with your own base behaviour pal.

For a guy on a forum where there's a thread called "Marry Snog or Avoid" (which I've never even gone into as it happens) and for someone with what comes across as one of the lowest opinions of women I've ever met, or close anyway, well, meet Mister Kettle. And what makes you suddenly the guardian of morality here? You left yourself wide open for a joke, I made it, you jump on me as if it's some sexual slur? Cram it, son.

Tealdear: one comment every year is hardly evidence of being an MCP.
Even tealerdeer: **** off.

Frownland 11-14-2017 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1894575)
You're just so full of it. I think I've made, at most, six of those sort of comments, all meant in laddish fun, in my six-odd (some of them very odd) years here.

More like 60.

Trollheart 11-14-2017 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1894579)
More like 60.

I doubt it. But even if that were so, that's ten a year. It's still hardly what you'd call constant. And anyway, as I said and you decided to obviously ignore, they're all said in fun. It's not like I'm a ****ing aspiring rapist or something.

Frownland 11-14-2017 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1894582)
I doubt it. But even if that were so, that's ten a year. It's still hardly what you'd call constant. And anyway, as I said and you decided to obviously ignore, they're all said in fun. It's not like I'm a ****ing aspiring rapist or something.

Trust me TH, he's not just ****ting on you, you constantly do this. You can still be creepy and demeaning without intending to. It's not as serious as a lot of things, but it's worth being conscious of.

Trollheart 11-14-2017 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1894584)
Trust me TH, he's not just ****ting on you, you constantly do this. You can still be creepy and demeaning without intending to. It's not as serious as a lot of things, but it's worth being conscious of.

If you're not just ****ing with me as usual, I'll take it on board and make no more comments, and if anyone took anything I said as hurtful or insensitive or creepy, I apologise. Nothing was meant by it. I'm not that sort of person.

Frownland 11-14-2017 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1894588)
If you're not just ****ing with me as usual, I'll take it on board and make no more comments, and if anyone took anything I said as hurtful or insensitive or creepy, I apologise. Nothing was meant by it. I'm not that sort of person.

I think more than being hurtful, it demonstrates how you feel deep down if your go to playful joke is always a lewd comment when a woman is in the discussion. Again, not a massive deal but it's worth being conscious of.

The Batlord 11-14-2017 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1894577)
re: whataboutism

not at all

I'm asking you consider that if you're dissatisfied with society it's because something is very well wrong with society

most people are even aware of this but they are placated by one thing or another, usually procreation

It was whataboutism because my point is that those who feel dissatisfied with society can develop a prejudice against society that can be detrimental to their objectivity, and you responded with, well society can suck. That has nothing to do with my point and only serves to push the onus entirely on mainstream society.

OccultHawk 11-14-2017 05:28 PM

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the easiest thing in the world to do is to reject people before they reject you and to rationalize that position.
Fair enough.

On a related note, when I was you’re age it was a lot easier to make a go of it. One example, is college tuition has increased 10 fold. And student loans were only 3% apr or even lower. Plus, it wasn’t like tax evasion if you didn’t pay your student loans. And it was much harder for creditors to track you. **** wasn’t centralized like it is now. It was much easier to make a solid go at life. A “good” economy today ****s more people than a recession did thirty years ago.

Your generation has real grit. Not only are the cards stacked way the **** against you but you still give a **** about other people. It’s impressive when I hear how much empathy younger people have. I guess my generation was the first in a long time to have it worse than our parents but y’all didn’t even get to have our childhoods back when middle class was still a thing.

Trollheart 11-14-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1894594)
I think more than being hurtful, it demonstrates how you feel deep down if your go to playful joke is always a lewd comment when a woman is in the discussion. Again, not a massive deal but it's worth being conscious of.

All right. Noted. Thanks. Really.


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