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Trollheart 12-13-2017 01:23 PM

The Official Genre Gateway Thread
 
Here's an idea. As I go through my "Albums of 2017" thread I'm finding myself as a matter of course listening to a lot of genres and sub-genres I have never heard, or would never think to listen to. Some have been successful listens, some not so. But it's interesting.

So here's your chance, if you ever wanted to get me to try your favourite genre(s). Post videos relating to a genre or sub-genre I'm not into or that into, or have never heard before. I will promise to listen to it and give you my opinion. Maybe you'll get me into something, maybe not. A list of the genres/sub-genres I am not into, or familiar with, is below, but if unsure just post and if I know the genre/sub-genre I'll let you know. And be patient, please, if I don't get back to you right away. Also please if you can put down the title of the song as it's not always legible from the video.

If I'm not impressed within, say, two minutes of the video I probably will write it off at that stage. If you think I should have listened for longer and that that would have changed my mind, make your case but it will still be up to me. Oh, and note what genre or sub-genre it is that you're posting, as it may not be obvious to me.

New rule: No posting the same artist twice, unless the genres are different, or unless I specifically request more of that artist.


I'd just like to point out that, though I won't be thanking everyone for their suggestions in every post, I do appreciate those of you who make the effort to post a song or songs. If I hate your song(s) please don't take it personally. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten, and your names will live on.

Genre list (will probably be expanded as I think of others)
Anything bolded has been already suggested (but don't let that stop you), while if any genre impresses me enough it will be colour-coded green, and any I really don't think, after having sampled enough of it, that I will ever like, will go red.

Jazz (all types but especially free jazz, ugh)
Punk (all types)
Electronic (including techno, vaporwave, etc)
Reggae
Dubstep
Drum'n'bass
Metalcore
Deathcore

Hip-hop
Indie Rock
Indie Folk
Folk
Bluegrass
Alt-Country
Soul
R&B
Industrial
Garage Rock
Rockabilly
Avant-Garde
Stoner Rock
World Music
Blackgaze

and many many more.

GENRE RESULTS
For each song that I rate, I'll add the score here and keep a running total on that genre, so we can see how I'm doing on each genre.

AVANT-GARDE

26

ELECTRONIC
Avant-Garde 13
Dubstep 5
IDM 4

FOLK
Acid Folk 8
Folk Rock 20
Freak Folk 4
Psyche Folk 8

GARAGE ROCK 5

INDUSTRIAL 8

JAZZ
Standard Jazz? 9
Free Jazz 4

HARD ROCK

10

HEAVY METAL
Blackgaze 20
Folk Metal 10
Metalcore 47
Progressive Metal 9

HIP-HOP 24

NOISE ROCK 9

POST-PUNK 5

REGGAE 9

ROCKABILLY 3

SOUL 6

STONER ROCK 8

WORLD MUSIC 10


INDEX
Ordered alphabetically by genre, then by artist. All links point to where I listened and gave my reaction to each song, not where it was originally posted.

AVANT-GARDE

Deerhoof - “Fresh Born”
Captain Beefheart – Various live tracks/jam
Captain Beefheart - “Ashtray Heart”
Tin Huey - “Puppet Wipes”


ELECTRONIC

Avant-Garde
Holly Herndon - “Chorus”
Paul Lansky - “Idle Chatter”
Bruce Haack - “Electric To Me Turn”

Dubstep
Katy B - “On a Mission”

IDM
Boards of Canada - “Sixtyten”

FOLK

Acid Folk
Mellow Candle - “Dan the Wing”
Steeleye Span - “The Blacksmith”

Folk Rock
Garry Higgins - “It Didn't Take Too Long”
Joni Mitchell - “TinAngel”
Eluveitie - "Lvgvs"


Freak Folk
Josephine Foster - “Garden of Earthly Delights”

Psych Folk

Pearls Before Swine - “Drop Out!”

GARAGE ROCK

Detroit Cobras - “Putty (In Your Hands)”

HARD ROCK
The Gun - “Race With the Devil”

HEAVY METAL


Blackgaze
Blackgaze
Oathebreaker - “Needles in Your Skin”
Harakiri For the Sky - “Funeral Dreams”

Deathcore
Eternal Lord - “Get to ****”

Folk Metal
Arkona - “Slovo”

Metalcore
The Agonist - “The Hunt”
Between the Buried and Me - “Ants of the Sky”
We're Wolf - “Every Time I Die”
Burst - “I Hold Vertigo”
Undying - “Teratism”
Misery Signals “Labyrinthian”

Progressive Metal

Dir En Grey - “Rinkaku”

HIP-HOP

Porter Ray - “East Seattle”
Outkast - “Aquemini”
Shabazz Palaces - “Swerve”

INDUSTRIAL

Einstürzende Neubauten - “ZNS”
Coil - “Penetralia”

JAZZ

Kendrick Scott Oracle - “We Are the Drum”
Free Jazz
John Coltrane - "Dearly Beloved"

NOISE ROCK

Rowland S. Howard - “Sleep Alone”

POST-PUNK

Fad Gadget - “Ideal World”

REGGAE

Toots and the Maytalls - “Funky King”

ROCKABILLY

Johnny Burnette and the Rock'n'Roll Trio - “

SOUL
The Soul Drifters - “Funky Soul Brother Part II”

STONER ROCK

Brant Bjork - “Johnny Called”
Monster Magnet - “Powertrip”

WORLD MUSIC

Mor Kabasi - “Un beso de vida”
Mdou Moctar - “A Fleur Tamgak”

Frownland 12-13-2017 01:24 PM

Journal of the year 2017

What folk have you heard? I'm assuming you're referring to American folk.

Trollheart 12-13-2017 01:27 PM

[retained for indices, part 2]

Trollheart 12-13-2017 01:28 PM

[retained for indices, part 3]

Trollheart 12-13-2017 01:28 PM

[retained for indices, part 4]

rubber soul 12-13-2017 01:28 PM

This is considered folk circa 1967


Trollheart 12-13-2017 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1903806)
Journal of the year 2017

What folk have you heard? I'm assuming you're referring to American folk.

Very little, most of it American, yes, but any country is fine. Your basic Woodie Guthrie, Dylan, Townes kind of stuff is mostly what I've heard, and some Fairport.

Frownland 12-13-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1903814)
Very little, most of it American, yes, but any country is fine. Your basic Woodie Guthrie, Dylan, Townes kind of stuff is mostly what I've heard, and some Fairport.

Ja that would be American folk. A lot of the folk music of various countries is annoyingly referred to as world music, but that's another convo.

American Folk

Gary Higgins - It Didn't Take Too Long

Freak folk

Josephine Foster - Garden of Earthly Delights

rubber soul 12-13-2017 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1903808)
I'd prefer if you didn't like any of the music I like thanks

We probably don't :p:

rubber soul 12-13-2017 01:44 PM

1956 Rockabilly


MicShazam 12-13-2017 01:45 PM

This thread is going to be interesting. I can feel it in my bones.

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I'm not extremely knowledgable about pure electronic music as such, but I'm fairly confident that my choice passes as being real electronic music and not just electro pop.

Holly Herndon - Chorus
From the album "Platform".



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Most of the mentioned genres aren't really any where I have much to add, so I guess I'll just chime in on folk and let that be it for now.

Joni Mitchell - Tin Angel
From the album "Clouds".


This is just 60's folk/singer-songwriter material. Not anything you've never heard, but I'm going to dare insisting that this song is flat out amazing.

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Ok just maybe one more. I'm not sure where you are in relation to melodic death metal*, but this is far from typical for the genre in any case. In fact, I'm not even sure to what extent it can be considered melodic death metal (aka "melodeath").

The Agonist - The Hunt
From the album "Five".


*If I consider this a gateway to something, it's to the rather large segment of the metal genre occupied by bands that make catchy music that doesn't easily fit a particular mold. There's so much more to hear than just the most typical representatives of the biggest sub-genres. Btw, this band kind of sucked until they got their new singer. This means that anything before the two newest albums isn't really worth a lot, but damn are those two albums with Vicky good.

Frownland 12-13-2017 01:47 PM

Joni Mitchell is a good choice, but I had kinda assumed that he'd heard some. Though on second thought I've never seen him talk about her.

MicShazam 12-13-2017 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1903823)
Joni Mitchell is a good choice, but I had kinda assumed that he'd heard some. Though on second thought I've never seen him talk about her.

I just think that, in any case, he should make sure to hear that specific song.

Blank. 12-13-2017 01:54 PM

Can I do one where I'm not trying to get you into a genre? I just love the song and more people need to know of its glorious existence.

Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1903808)
I'd prefer if you didn't like any of the music I like thanks

What a very odd ... oh wait. It's elphenor. Of course. :rolleyes:

Cuthbert 12-13-2017 02:03 PM

Since you mentioned Dubstep, here is a nice Dubstep track, dunno if you'll like it, but it's one of the more accessible ones.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=425bS4ByBik

Cuthbert 12-13-2017 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1903808)
I'd prefer if you didn't like any of the music I like thanks

:laughing:

Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1903812)
This is considered folk circa 1967


Yeah that was nice. Kind of a Cat Stevens feel to it.
I'm going to use my rating system from the "Albums of 2017" thread here, and will update the index later in the OP.

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Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1903817)
Ja that would be American folk. A lot of the folk music of various countries is annoyingly referred to as world music, but that's another convo.

American Folk


Freak folk

I'll give you a pass on this one, as I know you were giving me a comparison, but again, ONE video per post please, only. I'll listen to both of those, but just this once.
Quote:

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1903822)
This thread is going to be interesting. I can feel it in my bones.

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I'm not extremely knowledgable about pure electronic music as such, but I'm fairly confident that my choice passes as being real electronic music and not just electro pop.

Holly Herndon - Chorus
From the album "Platform".



---

Most of the mentioned genres aren't really any where I have much to add, so I guess I'll just chime in on folk and let that be it for now.

Joni Mitchell - Tin Angel
From the album "Clouds".


This is just 60's folk/singer-songwriter material. Not anything you've never heard, but I'm going to dare insisting that this song is flat out amazing.

---

Ok just maybe one more. I'm not sure where you are in relation to melodic death metal*, but this is far from typical for the genre in any case. In fact, I'm not even sure to what extent it can be considered melodic death metal (aka "melodeath").

The Agonist - The Hunt
From the album "Five".


*If I consider this a gateway to something, it's to the rather large segment of the metal genre occupied by bands that make catchy music that doesn't easily fit a particular mold. There's so much more to hear than just the most typical representatives of the biggest sub-genres. Btw, this band kind of sucked until they got their new singer. This means that anything before the two newest albums isn't really worth a lot, but damn are those two albums with Vicky good.

I won't however give you a pass. ONE VIDEO PER POST. No more exceptions. I'll do these but after this follow the rule please, or I'll just be ignoring your suggestions. I can only do one at a time and I don't want everyone posting a fistful of videos every post or I'll get way too backed up.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1903825)
Can I do one where I'm not trying to get you into a genre? I just love the song and more people need to know of its glorious existence.

Sure, why not?

Frownland 12-13-2017 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1903831)
I'll give you a pass on this one, as I know you were giving me a comparison, but again, ONE video per post please, only. I'll listen to both of those, but just this once.

You should clarify that in the OP because it reads like you only want one post per genre but allow for several genres per post.

MicShazam 12-13-2017 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1903831)
I won't however give you a pass. ONE VIDEO PER POST. No more exceptions. I'll do these but after this follow the rule please, or I'll just be ignoring your suggestions. I can only do one at a time and I don't want everyone posting a fistful of videos every post or I'll get way too backed up.

Oh ****, my bad. I just missed that rule. I was thinking one per genre.
Ok, the one I feel is most important is the Holly Herndon track. You can just ignore the other two and I can start reading things more closely :laughing:

Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1903817)




Enjoyed that one a whole lot.
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One more point though: could people please throw in the title of the song they're posting, as, as in this video above, the title is truncated onscreen and I don't know what the song is called. Thought it was "Red Hash" but I see now that's the name of the album. Just would help a lot. Thanks.

Frownland 12-13-2017 02:27 PM

Edited my original post to include song titles.

Glad you dug the track. I would expect you to be a huge American folk fan based on what I know you like. Do you actively dislike folk or have you just not checked much out?

Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1903832)
You should clarify that in the OP because it reads like you only want one post per genre but allow for several genres per post.

OK, done. I thought everyone understood that but I guess not. It's clear now, or should be.
Quote:

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1903833)
Oh ****, my bad. I just missed that rule. I was thinking one per genre.
Ok, the one I feel is most important is the Holly Herndon track. You can just ignore the other two and I can start reading things more closely :laughing:

No it's fine: I'll do all three but separately. Just in future, one song, regardless of genre/sub-genre, per post. Thanks.

Cuthbert 12-13-2017 02:28 PM

I understood you TH.

Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1903817)

Josephine Foster - Garden of Earthly Delights

This one I did not like. Her voice put me off - sort of like listening to a banshee sing! - and the backing melodies were weird. It just didn't chime with me at all, sorry. I guess there's a reason why it's called Freak Folk.

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Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1903837)
I understood you TH.

Good man. :) :beer:

MicShazam 12-13-2017 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1903836)
No it's fine: I'll do all three but separately. Just in future, one song, regardless of genre/sub-genre, per post. Thanks.

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Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1903820)
1956 Rockabilly


This was pretty terrible. I really am no fan of fifties music, and rockabilly just leaves me cold. Much of it seems to sound all the same, dull and uninspired, and while I know there wasn't a whole lot to work with in the 1950s, some of the songs are just so basic. I also hate the upright bass, which is fairly prominent here. Pass on this one. If I were ever to get into rockabilly, which I feel fairly certain I never will, I'd need something more interesting than this.

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-13-2017 02:44 PM

IDM

Boards of Canada - Sixtyten


Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1903822)
Holly Herndon - Chorus
From the album "Platform".



Now this was just unutterably awful. I hate, hate, HATE those choppy, broken-up samples that some forms of electronic music seem to use, and this is full of them. I got to the two-minute mark, hated it, skipped ahead in case it got better. It didn't. Worst one yet. Sorry. Never mind not being my cup of tea, I wouldn't even take these tea bags off the shelf at the supermarket!


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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-13-2017 02:48 PM

lol i’m sure BoC is going go over well then

MicShazam 12-13-2017 02:49 PM

Yikes! Well, at least you're being honest. It really is an anomaly that I like tbh

Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1903835)
Edited my original post to include song titles.

Thanks.
Quote:

Glad you dug the track. I would expect you to be a huge American folk fan based on what I know you like. Do you actively dislike folk or have you just not checked much out?
I find some folk very boring and dreary (check Julia Byrne and that Gentlewoman something man album in my thread) but I can enjoy good folk. I like it when the song tells a story (in any genre, but folk can do this so well) but I guess it's just that I haven't really explored it to any great extent. Guthrie is amazing of course, and Dan Fogelberg's debut album could qualify both as folk and country, but there are plenty of artists I've never even heard of or tried.

Trollheart 12-13-2017 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1903822)


Joni Mitchell - Tin Angel
From the album "Clouds".


That was all right. I know some Mitchell, but I found myself drifting off about halfway through, this being my contention that much folk can be very boring and I find it often fails or struggles to hold my attention.

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Blank. 12-13-2017 02:54 PM

CFO$ - Glorious Domination

rubber soul 12-13-2017 02:58 PM

Okay, let's do some Garage Rock


Trollheart 12-13-2017 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1903822)
The Agonist - The Hunt
From the album "Five".


This was all right, but not much else. I find it vaguely unsettling when a woman does growly vocals, just me I guess but it always seems a little weird. She sings ok, but generally I'm left thinking, so what? What difference is there between this and, say, In This Moment? I know the latter isn't really considered a metal band, but I hear similarities. All I can say is it's all right, but just that. Would not be a fan.
Sorry, that's kind of three for three, but as they say, it is what it is, and ever shall be, world without end, praise Dio.

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MicShazam 12-13-2017 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1903869)
What difference is there between this and, say, In This Moment?

I think I just felt a slight tingle of rage right there.

In This Moment is the worst thing ever. That's the main difference.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-13-2017 03:17 PM

one of my co-workers talks about that band all the time but after reading their rym page i figured im better off just not listening to them because it will soil my opinion of his taste in music


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