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Frownland 01-21-2018 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1918052)
Now I want to hate it twice as much just to annoy you.

If you do, it will be the only thing that I play in plug if we're ever there together.

As far as getting into the genre goes, have you heard Eric Dolphy's Out to Lunch! or Sonny Sharrock's Ask the Ages?

Paedantic Basterd 01-21-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1918058)
If you do, it will be the only thing that I play in plug if we're ever there together.

As far as getting into the genre goes, have you heard Eric Dolphy's Out to Lunch! or Sonny Sharrock's Ask the Ages?

It's a risk I'm willing to take. :laughing:

I have not heard. Are you recommending them to me because you think I will like them, or are you recommending them because you think I should like them? Haha.

Frownland 01-21-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1918061)
It's a risk I'm willing to take. :laughing:

I have not heard. Are you recommending them to me because you think I will like them, or are you recommending them because you think I should like them? Haha.

Yes.

They're both rather accessible imo and Ask the Ages can probably help you understand Coltrane better since it has Elvin Jones and Pharoah Sanders on it and Sharrock's guitar playing is very saxophone-esque. Definitely return to this album (and the rest of Coltrane's free work) if you start appreciating those records. Coltrane's earlier work is also much more accessible.

This one's underrated imo


Paedantic Basterd 01-21-2018 06:02 PM

Okay, I'll take 'em.

OccultHawk 01-21-2018 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1918069)
Yes.

They're both rather accessible imo and Ask the Ages can probably help you understand Coltrane better since it has Elvin Jones and Pharoah Sanders on it and Sharrock's guitar playing is very saxophone-esque. Definitely return to this album (and the rest of Coltrane's free work) if you start appreciating those records. Coltrane's earlier work is also much more accessible.

This one's underrated imo


Red Garland kind of saves the day there; you can tell Coltrane was inspired by Garland’s solo because he responds so well to it.

Frownland 01-21-2018 07:40 PM

Thought this was a good thread to post this in.



Also I had a Coltrane analysis video on in the background and I thought that he was playing to it because it worked pretty well tbh.

Also who did it better



Jesus the Carpenter - Dearly Beloved/Summertime

Neapolitan 01-21-2018 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1917525)
I know I’ve kind of been a dick talking to you about music so I’m not wearing my dickhead here. Coltrane’s playing is actually obsessively about very complicated patterns. It’s a lot like organic patterns in nature. He takes a theme and reworks it in a very systematic way.

This isn’t like the Daydream Nation conversation where I was just needling at you for no reason. I'm not just contradicting you on purpose. It just caught my eye when you mentioned patterns.

I’m not voting in this poll because I won’t partake in a poll that accepts less than the highest possible rating for Coltrane’s music.

Don't worry I got you covered. I am not 100% sure, but I recall voting 10/10 twice for this album, maybe it didn't take first time idk. Maybe it's the Madela effect, who knows? Unless the other two teners come forward I voted twice!

Glad you and Frownie liked the video clip of Elvin Jones.

josht23musiclover 01-21-2018 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1917800)
You could write a thesis on why this album is absolutely perfect both from a musical theory standpoint and from the viewpoint of an uninformed listener.

No such thing, or if there is it would be impossible for a human to justifiably say so.

Neapolitan 01-21-2018 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1918074)
Okay, I'll take 'em.

Is that a yes to Johnny Smith too? One of my favorites on the album is Cherokee - it's a standard needless to say.

Johnny Smith - Cherokee


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