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Old 04-22-2018, 11:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I used to wear my patch vests every day back then. I had a couple of jackets. I rocked my patch jackets every chance I got. We'd wear that **** all the time in high school. There was like 10 of us all patched out. People thought we were a gang or something. Oh...my high school-days are AGES ago..hahaha... my teachers weren't really happy with my outfit. But i gave a ****..and was wearing it every day anyway.
I was not that bad at school, so my parents didn't mind what i am wearing at school - as long my 'school marks' are ok.

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Old 04-22-2018, 11:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think when grunge came out, it became fashionable to be average musicians, sing songs about depression and cringe at anyone who had big hair and was actually good at playing an instrument. In that wake of Grunge there were a lot of bands that didn't deserve to be thrown by the wayside. Kurt Cobain was ****. Kurt Cobain's song writing was trash. Really listen to "smells like teen spirit." It sounded like that he just mushed a bunch of words that rhymed together and forced it into a song. He couldn't play the guitar worth a piss and his vocals were gar-bitch. Dude sounded like he gargled on some **** when he sang If he were alive today he would have been a has-been. He died at his height... that is the only reason why people consider him a "legend" like I said if he were alive today he would be playing concerts at Wal-Mart.
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Old 04-22-2018, 11:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think when grunge came out, it became fashionable to be average musicians, sing songs about depression and cringe at anyone who had big hair and was actually good at playing an instrument. In that wake of Grunge there were a lot of bands that didn't deserve to be thrown by the wayside. Kurt Cobain was ****. Kurt Cobain's song writing was trash. Really listen to "smells like teen spirit." It sounded like that he just mushed a bunch of words that rhymed together and forced it into a song. He couldn't play the guitar worth a piss and his vocals were gar-bitch. Dude sounded like he gargled on some **** when he sang If he were alive today he would have been a has-been. He died at his height... that is the only reason why people consider him a "legend" like I said if he were alive today he would be playing concerts at Wal-Mart.
I think Cobain was a legit good songwriter with an ear for a good melody. He had a singing voice that matched the music perfectly as well.

You're entitled to the hate boner you have for grunge, but couldn't you at least say something new? You keep reiterating that grunge bands had no musical talent, but that's a very myopic and closed minded way to look at things. You're too caught up in the idea that music has to be this very specific thing and come from this very particular perspective. It might not be your thing, but I honestly don't believe that you've ever even tried to understand it.

There's lots of genres I'm not a fan of (yet), but I wouldn't simply dismiss the talent of all involved. That's just not very constructive. It's much more interesting to try and give genres yet another chance now and then.

I bitch, moan and whine about all sorts of bands that I don't like - I'll admit that - but I wouldn't dismiss a whole genre. I've even started to see the light in hip hop... it's a brave new world and it definetely beats becoming a grumpy old man as the years pass. I kind of really, really want to avoid that.
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I think when grunge came out, it became fashionable to be average musicians, sing songs about depression and cringe at anyone who had big hair and was actually good at playing an instrument.
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In that wake of Grunge there were a lot of bands that didn't deserve to be thrown by the wayside. Kurt Cobain was ****. Kurt Cobain's song writing was trash. Really listen to "smells like teen spirit." It sounded like that he just mushed a bunch of words that rhymed together and forced it into a song.
That's what his lyrics were. He hated writing lyrics, so he tried to just write stuff that rhymed that conveyed an emotion. He actually had to start writing lyrics with meaning for the third album. That album also contains his best lyrical material.

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Lol. Cobain wasn't a guitar god but he was way better than you're giving him credit for.
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That's what his lyrics were. He hated writing lyrics, so he tried to just write stuff that rhymed that conveyed an emotion. He actually had to start writing lyrics with meaning for the third album. That album also contains his best lyrical material.



Lol. Cobain wasn't a guitar god but he was way better than you're giving him credit for.
One thing you have to admit; as goofy as the 80's hair band guitarists looked with the big hair, make-up and spandex they spent years mastering their craft with blistering guitar riffs and killer solos whereas Cobain shot up the charts playing rinky-dink power chords and amateurish piss ant guitar solos. Go figure! A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
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One thing you have to admit; as goofy as the 80's hair band guitarists looked with the big hair, make-up and spandex they spent years mastering their craft with blistering guitar riffs and killer solos whereas Cobain shot up the charts playing rinky-dink power chords and amateurish piss ant guitar solos. Go figure! A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
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Yea cause sweet ego stroking solos are everything..


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A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
Did you time jump to the 90's and are now stuck there? Or do you live in an alternate reality where time doesn't move forward?
Cause it's 2018 man, Kurt is dead. You can count that as a win.
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One thing you have to admit; as goofy as the 80's hair band guitarists looked with the big hair, make-up and spandex they spent years mastering their craft with blistering guitar riffs and killer solos whereas Cobain shot up the charts playing rinky-dink power chords and amateurish piss ant guitar solos. Go figure! A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
The concept of securing messages through cryptography has a long history. Indeed, Julius Caesar is credited with creating one of the earliest cryptographic systems to send military messages to his generals. Throughout history, however, there has been one central problem limiting widespread use of cryptography. That problem is key management. In cryptographic systems, the term key refers to a numerical value used by an algorithm to alter information, making that information secure and visible only to individuals who have the corresponding key to recover the information. Consequently, the term key management refers to the secure administration of keys to provide them to users
where and when they are required. Historically, encryption systems used what is known as symmetric cryptography. Symmetric cryptography uses the same key for both encryption and decryption. Using symmetric cryptography, it is safe to send encrypted messages without fear of interception (because an interceptor is unlikely to be able to decipher the message); however, there always remains the difficult problem of how to securely transfer the key to the recipients of a message so that they can decrypt the message. A major advance in cryptography occurred with the invention of public-key
cryptography. The primary feature of public-key cryptography is that it removes the need to use the same key for encryption and decryption. With public-key cryptography, keys come in pairs of matched “public” and “private” keys. The public portion of the key pair can be distributed in a public manner without
compromising the private portion, which must be kept secret by its owner. An operation (for example, encryption) done with the public key can only be undone
with the corresponding private key. Prior to the invention of public-key cryptography, it was essentially impossible to provide key management for large-scale networks. With symmetric cryptography, as the number of users increases on a network, the number of keys required to provide secure communications among those users increases rapidly. For example, a network of 100 users would require almost 5000 keys if it used only symmetric cryptography. Doubling such a network to 200 users increases the number of keys to almost 20,000. Thus, when only using symmetric cryptography, key management quickly becomes unwieldy even for relatively small-scale networks.
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One thing you have to admit; as goofy as the 80's hair band guitarists looked with the big hair, make-up and spandex they spent years mastering their craft with blistering guitar riffs and killer solos whereas Cobain shot up the charts playing rinky-dink power chords and amateurish piss ant guitar solos. Go figure! A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
Hmm. 41-year old guy approaches 15-year old kid in music store. Nothing weird at all about that.
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The concept of securing messages through cryptography has a long history. Indeed, Julius Caesar is credited with creating one of the earliest cryptographic systems to send military messages to his generals. Throughout history, however, there has been one central problem limiting widespread use of cryptography. That problem is key management. In cryptographic systems, the term key refers to a numerical value used by an algorithm to alter information, making that information secure and visible only to individuals who have the corresponding key to recover the information. Consequently, the term key management refers to the secure administration of keys to provide them to users
where and when they are required. Historically, encryption systems used what is known as symmetric cryptography. Symmetric cryptography uses the same key for both encryption and decryption. Using symmetric cryptography, it is safe to send encrypted messages without fear of interception (because an interceptor is unlikely to be able to decipher the message); however, there always remains the difficult problem of how to securely transfer the key to the recipients of a message so that they can decrypt the message. A major advance in cryptography occurred with the invention of public-key
cryptography. The primary feature of public-key cryptography is that it removes the need to use the same key for encryption and decryption. With public-key cryptography, keys come in pairs of matched “public” and “private” keys. The public portion of the key pair can be distributed in a public manner without
compromising the private portion, which must be kept secret by its owner. An operation (for example, encryption) done with the public key can only be undone
with the corresponding private key. Prior to the invention of public-key cryptography, it was essentially impossible to provide key management for large-scale networks. With symmetric cryptography, as the number of users increases on a network, the number of keys required to provide secure communications among those users increases rapidly. For example, a network of 100 users would require almost 5000 keys if it used only symmetric cryptography. Doubling such a network to 200 users increases the number of keys to almost 20,000. Thus, when only using symmetric cryptography, key management quickly becomes unwieldy even for relatively small-scale networks.
Ah I don't know, man. Sounds a little crypto-fascist to me.
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One thing you have to admit; as goofy as the 80's hair band guitarists looked with the big hair, make-up and spandex they spent years mastering their craft with blistering guitar riffs and killer solos whereas Cobain shot up the charts playing rinky-dink power chords and amateurish piss ant guitar solos. Go figure! A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
And yet Cobain expressed so much more with his meagre skills than those spandex wearing dudebros did with their godlike shred powers.

What good is it to be great at playing guitar if you're gonna use it to play crap?

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