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Old 12-28-2018, 03:59 PM   #221 (permalink)
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Old 12-28-2018, 04:09 PM   #222 (permalink)
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1. Fair enough on Tzuke. I just thought she aped her mentor Elton John's style a bit too much until 1989's Turning Stones, but that's a discussion for another day. She's a fan of Toto as well now that I think about it, atleast the first two albums.

2. I wasn't talking about popularity = quality. I'm saying you come off as dismissive. But like you said, maybe you'll come back to something in the future and change your mind. It's no big deal, but you should know what I'm talking about because you have experienced others not liking what you've shared for seemingly inscrutable reasons.
Answer to #1: I gotta say I honestly fail to see any significant similarity between the music of Elton John and Judie Tzuke. And Toto, for that matter.

Answer to #2: I've listened to several Toto albums at this point, so I don't think it's fair to expect much more from me. It would count as dismissive if I'd only skimmed, but that's far from what I've actually done. If I beat myself over the head with Toto's music again and again but still don't connect with it, then I'm not likely to suddenly love them. Never say never, of course. I took a long time to warm to some artists/bands.
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Old 12-28-2018, 04:32 PM   #223 (permalink)
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Answer to #1: I gotta say I honestly fail to see any significant similarity between the music of Elton John and Judie Tzuke. And Toto, for that matter.

Answer to #2: I've listened to several Toto albums at this point, so I don't think it's fair to expect much more from me. It would count as dismissive if I'd only skimmed, but that's far from what I've actually done. If I beat myself over the head with Toto's music again and again but still don't connect with it, then I'm not likely to suddenly love them. Never say never, of course. I took a long time to warm to some artists/bands.
Elton John was the one that signed Tzuke and mentored her. Her 80's stuff sounds a lot like what he was doing in the late 70's through the mid 80's. Especially on the ballads and more synth-driven material. Furthermore, he used the Toto guys on a few albums during that period as session players / occasional co-writers, and future Toto drummer Simon Phillips played on her debut album. So...yes, there are connections.
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Elton John was the one that signed Tzuke and mentored her. Her 80's stuff sounds a lot like what he was doing in the late 70's through the mid 80's. Furthermore, he used the Toto guys on a few albums as session players / occasional co-writers, and future Toto drummer Simon Phillips played on her first debut. So...yes, there are connections.
I don't know all of Elton John's music, but what I do know... Not that similar. Any specific Elton John album that would convince me otherwise?
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Old 12-28-2018, 04:35 PM   #225 (permalink)
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I don't know all of Elton John's music, but what I do know... Not that similar. Any specific Elton John album that would convince me otherwise?
21 At 33, Jump Up!, Breaking Hearts and Ice On Fire are similar to what she was doing between '80 to '85.
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21 At 33, Jump Up!, Breaking Hearts and Ice On Fire are similar to what she was doing between '80 to '85.
Ok, I'll see what I think when I get around to those. Maybe I'll see what you mean, or maybe we'll have to have a fistfight about it
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Be sure to check out the rest of Los ángeles as well. I dig the glitch elements that she incorporates on the new one.

Hmm... I don't know. Some parts did something subtly interesting with how it combined various musical elements and in terms of sound quality, it's top marks. I especially enjoyed how dynamic the volume levels are. That's a bit more rare these days than I'd like. It's just that on an overall level, I did find my wandering a little too much as I re-played the first part of the album a couple times. Not really into it, but I appreciate the undeniable creativity of this album.

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Really good! Would have liked something with slightly better sound quality, but that's live recordings for you. Definitely not a stretch that I would be spinning something just like this on my stereo if I found anything.
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In terms of what sounds go into the mix and the musical ideas of any given moment, I'm into this for sure. But in terms of how the music develops over time, I feel like I'm not getting enough to chew on for a 4 minute track (yeah, yeah I know - I don't get hip hop). And I also felt like the flows (if I'm even using that word correctly) were a little vanilla (Ice! heh heh *sigh*).
I mean, it's fine. I enjoyed it, but if I'm being perfectly honest, I'm not dying to hear more from the artist inn question.
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Hmm... I don't know. Some parts did something subtly interesting with how it combined various musical elements and in terms of sound quality, it's top marks. I especially enjoyed how dynamic the volume levels are. That's a bit more rare these days than I'd like. It's just that on an overall level, I did find my wandering a little too much as I re-played the first part of the album a couple times. Not really into it, but I appreciate the undeniable creativity of this album.
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