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Old 05-22-2019, 05:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Give me Convenience or Give me Death

Dead Kennedys are a rare case of both being the most iconic and popular act in a genre while arguably still being the best

Jell-0 Biafra's wavering voice and lisp only work in his favor where they might be a detriment in any other context (the beauty of punk)

his real genius though lies in how he delivers straight leftist rhetoric while completely dodging the pitfall of sounding preachy or hammy....a feat that's accomplished through a combination of sheer wit and an inspired approach of theatrically wearing the masks of the opposition

he's also backed by a technical unit that's more invested in realizing the vocalist's cartoon super-villain vision than flexing their chops, East Bay Ray's whacked out playing screeches like a chorus of demons while the rhythm section kicks things into overdrive


Give me Convenience or Give me Death is a showcase of some of DK's best work along with a couple live recordings and the hilarious story time with Jell-O over a jazzy strut "Night of the Living Rednecks"

you get a nice taste of what the band has to offer both in the studio and on stage, however honestly it's not the best of either as that goes to their debut album and "Live at the Deaf Club"(one of the greatest live albums ever) respectively

shout out to "Too Drunk to ****", always a joy

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Verdict: I like short songs!
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TBH I like this comp better than any LP muchly because it's where I first heard Dead Kennedys but honestly I like the less fast approach of "Callifornia Uber Alles" and "Holiday in Cambodia" that allows Jello's performance to breath more, so Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables has never connected with me as much since those versions of the songs feel wrong. It also has "Police Truck" and the aforementioned "Night of the Living Rednecks" so that's an absolute no brainer for me to make it the definitive Dead Kennedys statement. I mean how can you listen to Fresh Fruit's version of "California Uber Alles" when there's a top 10 punk song version on another album?
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Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables is up there as the best produced punk album I've ever heard in its charming lack of production

I like both versions

Give me Convenience is lacking "Kill the Poor" so it's really hard to call it definitive
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the faux New Wave edition of Kill the Poor is my favorite thing they did



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Give me Convenience is lacking "Kill the Poor" so it's really hard to call it definitive
Absolutely agreed. But it also has "I Fought the Law" so boom to the dick. One other thing I like about Give Me Convenience is that it's a comp without flow which reminds the listener that albums at the time were a two-decade-old arbitrary concept based around how much you could fit on a piece of wax rather than being an objectively valid artistic concept. If a band can put out one single song that resonates throughout history like The Kingsmen with "Louie Louie" then you are still a great band if you don't add the arbitrary necessity of making entire 30-40 minute collections of songs to being a great band, and punk most of all genres should ignore the need for full "albums" when they can just put out great music to be great. Give Me Convenience is just some great songs with some other great stuff thrown in which doesn't make it feel like a statement that makes every song feel the need to work with every other song in a way that is unnecessary to appreciate each song.
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it's kinda the standard for punk albums to be basically a random list of singles?

but in terms of the album as a medium, when a band is hot, I want everything they can throw at me, oftentimes the singles are not my favorites, for instance, the 2 track run of "Stealing People's Mail" and "Funland at the Beach" is my favorite part of Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
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The point is that albums are an arbitrary medium and a comp can be at least as valid a medium for listening in one go and having a bunch of a band's best songs in one place along with some other oddities that are also bomb as **** even if they don't meld together in a seamless experience can be as definitive as an actual "album" and Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death is a perfect encapsulation of that. It's got a bunch of amazing **** and some other **** that doesn't fit in with the standard concept of an album that I love listening to as well that makes me very happy and the incongruity of it all feels perfectly valid considering just who the Dead Kennedys are.
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