Can rock get a new style? Or will we retread forever?

OccultHawk · 02-18-2020, 12:44 PM

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The next stage of life for rock might not be guitar music.

I usually make a point to call hip hop rock’n’roll but for this thread I’m avoiding that.

Once we remove the guitar there’s room for growth.

**Frownland** · 02-18-2020, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

saying that AM "attempted to rip off The Strokes" comes across as being unaware that both these bands are hella pulling from post-punk and even earlier than that, garage rock

Nah they were definitely signed by their label with the idea that they'd be the next Strokes. Stopping at garage rock in terms of influence comes across as being unaware that the sound pulls heavily from surf rock, blues, African tribal music, romantic music, and Gregorian chants btw.

**Frownland** · 02-18-2020, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

The Strokes themselves were always a revival act down to having an album titled "80's Comedown Machine"

Neat!

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but seeing that he's listening to White Stripes and AM and going "has rock exhausted innovation"

Those were flarly examples of rock that is not innovative.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 02-18-2020, 04:37 PM

At this point, anything "innovative" is going to have to sound so avante garde it probably won't be very popular. In fact, there's already a whole lot of stuff like that already out there, but ... well, it's not really all that popular. Because it tends to be too weird. People's tastes are going to have to change before anything "new" (which likely won't really be very "new") gains any significant traction.

When grunge came out I could tell rock was starting its downward trend because it wasn't really all that different from other stuff that had been popular years before.

I'm going to go even farther and note that I've been wondering when pop music as we know it is going to basically die.

The continued popularity of classic rock is, IMO, a sign that rock has already had a "golden age" and increasingly people will listen to old stuff at the expense of the new. Sort of like how Classical music had a "golden age" (in this case about 150 years) then declined in popularity when other genres came around.

Except this time, I'm wondering if all of popular music (not just rock) is following that path. What would replace it, I know not. Maybe some jazz spinoff or something.

**Frownland** · 02-18-2020, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't think any other medium is as obsessed with the now

Not even fashion?

The Batlord · 02-18-2020, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Not even fashion?

Pretty sure he doesn't give much of a **** about 99.9% of fashion.

**Frownland** · 02-18-2020, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

vintage clothing?

Old albums?

TheBig3 · 02-18-2020, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

saying that AM "attempted to rip off The Strokes" comes across as being unaware that both these bands are hella pulling from post-punk and even earlier than that, garage rock

1. I said they changed their sound on A.M.
2. https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/...trokes-2359065
3. Did you know John Peel died?

OccultHawk · 02-18-2020, 08:40 PM

Who are your top 5 non guitar rock bands elph?

Neapolitan · 02-18-2020, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

1. I said they changed their sound on A.M.
2. https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/...trokes-2359065
3. Did you know John Peel died?

He died, but his spirit lives on. He left a legacy of recordings that can not be sneezed at.

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I'm leaning on guys who are slightly older than me and it's sad.

Yes, John Peel was years older than me, but it didn't make me "sad." He was wealth of information.

02-18-2020, 04:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,158	At this point, anything "innovative" is going to have to sound so avante garde it probably won't be very popular. In fact, there's already a whole lot of stuff like that already out there, but ... well, it's not really all that popular. Because it tends to be too weird. People's tastes are going to have to change before anything "new" (which likely won't really be very "new") gains any significant traction. When grunge came out I could tell rock was starting its downward trend because it wasn't really all that different from other stuff that had been popular years before. I'm going to go even farther and note that I've been wondering when pop music as we know it is going to basically die. The continued popularity of classic rock is, IMO, a sign that rock has already had a "golden age" and increasingly people will listen to old stuff at the expense of the new. Sort of like how Classical music had a "golden age" (in this case about 150 years) then declined in popularity when other genres came around. Except this time, I'm wondering if all of popular music (not just rock) is following that path. What would replace it, I know not. Maybe some jazz spinoff or something. __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here

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