lol @ judging bands on youtube videos. i'd call you an idiot but you did the job for me.

You can never hear vox at shows. If you could hear the vocals it would be a show and tell, not merely a show.

It's not true that all live videos suck on youtube, probably just the ones that sucky fans make of sucky bands that suck, like all vids of Hot Cross

There's a thesaurus in Microsoft word. Suck is under S. I'll wait.....
And I could look up every band you love on youtube and find a shitty live recording of them without even trying.

I really like the new album, as they're venturing into good post hardcore territory instead of screamo. But both are awesome.

Well, if this band means so much to u, why don't u giv me a decent link, since the vid on youtube was so misrepresentative of what they are all about.

A little lesson about sound. The videos where you couldn't hear the vocals in were probably shot like this.

---------------------------PA Level

---------------------------Amp Level

---------------------------ELEVATED STAGE/Handicam Level (not multi-thousand dollar live recording systems your overly synthesized generic bands are provided)

---------------------------Ground level

Basically when your camera mic is 20 feet away from an 800 watt ampeg bass stack displacing the air like crazy, and a 200 watt Marshall stacking beating it with high end frequencies, especially in a small bar where the acoustics aren't very good to begin with, you aren't going to hear much of anything but fuzz and distortion. Even in the video

YouTube - hot cross at the wnd 04

where the camera is elevated where the PA's would be, it is still hard to hear the vocals, just because of how much sound is bouncing off those walls. Your ears may be focused to hear things directly in front of you and to the sides (not to mention much better at processing sound waves), but a MUCH more sensitive mic that can't take tons of sound without overloading is going to really take a beating from all the frequencies bouncing around that room.

PS. God, you are both idiots.

And you are on my list of things to do this evening.

yeah, perfect sonnet how did I ever miss that? BTW I asked for a good link not a sucky one, of course that is the challenge, and will be impossible I think.

Wow, can you please get your head out of your ass, you thought Drop Dead, Gorgeous sounded good.

I'm also amazed at how you clicked the link and went straight back to your moronic thinking, rather than read why outdoor and concert hall shows sound better recorded than bar and basement ones.