the problem with kids today
 

:D no i'm only twenty...

about 3 years ago, (where i live anyway) it was ever so trendy to be a goth/gothic, then it was ever so trendy to become garage rock, then it moved onto indie. doesnt everyone see what's happening here?

the people in each social group critisise the other's for their taste in music/dress sense/way of thinking and then go on to dress/listen/think in their own certain way which is anti-confirmist! but they are actually conforming to anti-conformity.

emo is the perfect example. recently loads of people i know are so quick to say "I'm emo", "i listen to emo music", "i'm an emo-kid" what the &*^%?

They dont like other social trends yet they follow their own? They try to be different, yet everyone in that group is similar... if a band is not emo enough (even if they might like it) they cant say so in their social group because it's not emo enough (or whatever the genre is).

Point is, young people are always trying to be part of something for acceptance and trying to classify themselves as something rather than just being an individual! Who cares if you like something you shouldn't?

I have one of the most diverse taste's in music, clothing and pastimes of anyone i know, simply because i really dont care if i fit into someone else's idea of what is "emo" or "indie" or "gothic" or "pop" or whatever the hell else?

Question is, why cant other's be like this?

(i put this in the emo forum because emo is the current trendy thing to be apparently and i'm expecting more flames that way :D )

Let kids be kids...Being a kid and dressing a certain way is a way for them to fit in...Emo is a type of music so if they say "i listen to emo music" I don't see the problem, it is just another genre of music just as pop is...it's not a way of life or a way to dress etc...If this really annoys you this much you may need some help because all kids do it. They do it to "fit in" they'll grow out of it...in there own time

if kids want to fit in listening a kind of music or dressing in a different way, why not? the problem is that kids that are "heavies" hate kids that are "poppies" and emokids hate hiphopkids and all that stuff...

yeah, I'd say a bigger problem with kids is how they all want to hurt people for being who they are...being nasty just because they don't agree etc

Adults are exactly the same. :(

That's just the facts of life, there are too many people that think everyone should stick to their rules and their way of life. When you're a kid and you're being picked on, you think "It's ok, they'll mature one day and feel guilty for how they made my life hell"... Tis just sad that hardly ever happens :(

its kool to be emo nowerdays
its all about the image
you all like bands no1 has ever heard off because its "kool"
you have to wear tight black cloths cos all the emo kids do
its "kool" to have parents who abuse you cos that makes you proper emo
you have to be depressed and slit your wrists alot
so bassically emo kids are just attension seeking ****tards who all need to be beating with a baseball bat with the inscriptions "AC/DC" carved on it.

its not "kool" to be depressed, its actually quite sad.
your not going to be popular or get a girlfriend by being emo.
you just depress others around u
do us all a favour and kill yourselves, and rid us all of your depressing attitude and whineing about being dumped

this goes for all your goths too.

by the way, im a rocker, i like AC/DC, Led Zep, Iron Maiden, Green Day, Bad Religion.......HAPPY bands

Fecking stereotypes!!! Not all people who like emo are like that. Emo started out as just another stupid music genre, but as soon as someone realised only certain types of people were listening to it, everyone who now listens to it is stereotyped as some depressive, attention seeking loser.. That's the sort of person you are, not the music you listen to most.

Tis no different than if someone said all rockers have long hair or mullets, or all boys who wear eyeliner are ***. I hate stereotypes, they make fools of everyone...

not really, its the uniform of being emo
your not emo unless your depressed and u whine about being dumped.
the uniform for being punk is having a mohawk and wearing denim.
its whether people have the choice to follow up those uniforms
you lot, do
alot of punks, dont.
its also all down to being labelled as something
being labelled as "emo" is "kool" nowerdays. its the "kool" thing to be.

Mebbe it's just that if you see someone with a mohawk and denim, you think "punk", but really they're just the more extreme versions of punk. It just annoys me when everyone has to be grouped into looking a certain way, and acting a certain way. There's so much discrimination going between the stereotypes just because some people don't like the look of the really extreme ones...

Sorry for the ranting, tis just that literally everyone is put into stereotypes where I live, and when you're in a smaller group of people it isn't so much fun.. Ok I'll shoosh now, sorry!

Emo isn't the new trend. Pop imitating emo is the new trend. See Story of the Year, Taking Back Sunday, Alkaline Trio, etc. Then again I don't hate those bands, its mostly the kids that want to feel like they belong to some genre even though they have no clue what emo really is. You can thank corporate record companies that just want to sell a couple more records, and the ignorant critics who want to look more important for this emo fad.

The problem with kids these days is you go out of town for the weekend and you happen to pop on the comp and see some effing retard named eru. Sorry i dont have time to delete his posts, but ill work on it when i get back.

I like the sarcasm.

Anyhow, . . . . .
Oh crudamucker somebody give me a damned nuttter butter. i haven't had one in two days and I think I'm seeing spots.

So at any rate, I think that a new trend is set every day. About a year ago a trend was to wear safety pins in your ears which I still do from time to time. And i never did it because I liked goth music so much or anything. I just thought it looked cool.
And the whole black clothes all the time is not a must. It's a goth thing I know but i know plenty of people who don't wear all black clothes and consider themselves goth just because they listen to the music as much as the next person.
And it is not necessarily punk to have piercings covering more than half your body and in places that I don't wanna know about.
So why don't all of yous just hold hands, sing kumbayah and get over it. Be appreciative of the fact that you have ears and no what good music sounds like.
And the problem with kids today is that so easily succumb to peer pressure. I know that may seem like a foreign word in a thread like this but it's true.
Yous are all so quick to change your ways and style because your best friend says that all black is in. But then the next day it's tye dye shirts. Get a life, get over all of these crazy fads and just enjoy the futhermucking bizacci music.

And in all honesty I don't give two nutter butters for all of this stereotypical stuff. It's pointless. Through most of what I've said, I've been trying to say that it doesn't matter what you wear or how you wear your hair. What it all boils down to is that the music will still be at your dispsoal whether you meet the stereotypical criteria to listen to it. I mean relaly. It's not like if you don't waer all black the music will just disappear. Yous are all smoking.

Man that was cheesy and off topic. (I want my fothermucking bizacci sugar. Confizzled you are I know. But that's ok cause i'm all ceecee-dizzled out. I'm on the fritz and I'm holding on to the edge of my life with a single starburst and the PS2 I built all by myself with some help from my friend)


Peace out
Gone for sugar but will be back in 2.

because if more people were like you, you would have to go spend a few more hours at good will trying to be more individual because more and more people are starting to be like you.........than you would have to come home and go on the net and complain that everyone is conforming to your stile, your hole post was pretty much about you not about kids and how they dress...all i herd through your hole post was blah blah im individual blah blah no one is like me blah blah more people should be like me

i like the original post (whoever wrote it) saying that not conforming is conforming. i think i said something along those lines in another post somewhere.
i think people have this unintentional fixation with labels. i think it is just as common with adults as it is teens or children. most of the people on this site are still in high school, so there's yer typical clique-label crap that everybody goes through. In the workplace however, there are just as many useless labels. People are constantly conforming to their political (or nonpolitical) affiliations, religion, social standing and etiquette, gender, race, etc. etc.
in general, i think people should not concern greatly over what they or someone else is wearing. it seems really trivial once you get outta high school, where image is force-fed to the impressionable. let people do what they want. and you do what you want. because in the end, no fashion is original or creative. No label is withstanding...
If you talk to an intelligent person, they will not care what you are wearing. At least, i hope not...

every one i guilty of conforming even if you wont admit it from when you get dressed to what you stand for and how you act you cant get around it it's human nature to want to belong for example i bet you listen to the music your friends do

and if not conforming is conforming please tell me how do i go about being original

well is anything original?
and what is wrong with conforming, if everyone is guilty of it?

I think conforming is just human nature, it's only something to be ashamed of if you deliberately try to be like someone else or a certain stereotype.. But then again I don't know anything, so I may aswell have just kept quiet in this thread from the beginning :) Nevermind...

Ah, conforming. Like the dreaded emo debate, it'll never go away.

The way I see it: Do whatever makes you happy. If that means dressing in the same clothes as your friends and listening to the same records then do it, if it means making sure every band you like is someone that nobody you know has heard of, then do that. If it makes you happy, then get on with it. If something doesn't make you happy, then don't do it.

^ i agree with franscar and artistintheambulance. i guess sometimes the obvious just isnt so obvious to everyone. ;)

thats what i was kinda trying to say there's nothing wrong with it i was just trying to point out how hipocritical his post was

well now that ive read that part, i dunno tiaw, that sounds really corny to me. youre patting yerself on the back, but you are just one in a billion. everybody is different, so in a way, everyone is diverse...like yerself.... :)

you know, I really dont see why the title of the thread is "the problem with kids TODAY". In every generation people have followed trends, its nothing at all new, so why is it such a big deal. Everyone goes through a stage in their life where they want to fit in, and feel the need to belong to a group, and everyone goes through a stage where they rebel against the "group image", and a lot of times this simply leads them to a different trend to follow. Its not a new phenomenon, and it's not hurting anyone, so I've never understood why people make such a big deal over it and act as though the desire to fit in is such a negative thing, when really, it's just human nature.

^ i agree, i think conforming to something is almost inevitable at all stages of yer life. people seem fixated with labels and category, but whatever, you do what you gotta do, you do what you wanna do.

cannon fodder is right. ok maybe not about the bit of them killing themselves. and being depressed, well it's not sad, it's a mental state of mind and an illness so no one should make fun of it.. but apart from that he's right. . .
punks have their uniform,
emo kinds have their uniform
so do rockers!

they all do and furthermore it doesnt bother me i just think its really stupid because their limiting themselves and just copying other people rather than just being themselves.. emo is seen as cool nowadays and thats just bloody stupid because everyone who wants to be cool is now emo strangely enough?? coicindence - i think not.

oh and by the way, yeah, everyone is guilty of conforming to some extent, but some are a lot more guilty of it than others!

fanny packs that’s the next trend just wait and see :yeah:

spearmint's comment right in the beginning is exactly what i would have said in this thread... e-x-a-c-t-l-y

First, what is being a goth? It tends to involve listening to gothic music, and a certain dress sense and often make-up. Emo is different. Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't emo short for emotional? What the hell is wrong with being emotional? If having feelings and enjoying heartfelt lyrics is conforming, then sign me up with the rest of the sheep. I will not apologise for having emotions, wether 99% of the population do too, or not. Most of us do, its not about comformity at all. Its about life.

^ the term "emo" in the sort of connotation that we're talking about in this thread has come to be defined as somone who is always sad about things, wears black tight clothing, dyes their hair black, tends to let very small insignificant things really get to them etc... It's absolutely rediculous I know, and all these "descriptors" I've put in my post are from things I've read on this board from people describing the so called "emo kids".

ill sum it all up for you.

Goth is Joy Division
Emo is Indian Summer


these are music genres. not lifestyles or traits to define yourself by. sorry if that crushes everyones personalities on this board, but at least now you can rebuild.

^ yeah that basically sums it up. unfortunately for every person who realizes that music genres aren't synonymous with a certain type of lifestyle, there's be twenty kids talking about how "punk", "emo", "goth" they are.

True. I can't say I've noticed these 'emo' kids running around... perhaps its an american trend?

^ I wouldn't know, I live in canada

*falls over laughing hestericly*

i was thinking more along the lines of... OMG I luvv TBS!!! i hope these girls pants are tight enough and my hair is black enough.

Ha ha, I listen to some of that stuff, and when I go to shows its so funny. Every person there is the same. All these kids dress exactly alike, and they look at me funny cuz my hairs not black, lips not peirced, my t-shirt doesnt say 'Senses Fail" and stuff like that. I dunno, Im trying to say that the kids at these 'emo' shows are all the same and it makes me laugh because they are all true individuals.

as manufactured as the bands in my opinion. the kids down here that are like that i think care more about the trend than the music.

Thats basicly the same thing where I come from, everyday at school or around town I see kids with black hair, black clothes and black finger nails walking around, they all say they dress that way to be different, but how can you be different if every other kid is dressed the same.

conforming to be a non-conformist kinda defeats the purpose