brand new I know and like though I dunno if its exactly what I'm lookin for, I think its just the fact where I go to extremes (I like really really soft folk or absolutely brutal metal) I can't find anything in this genre that I like

another thing that may help is that I think my favorite lyrics from a band have come from The Barenaked Ladies, Nick Drake, The Smiths, and Mumford And Sons just to name a few more down to earth and literal (with the exception of morrissey there sorry their just what I'm listenin to the most right now)

I also liked Fightstar but their screaming wasn't that good, the lyrics were though so yea

thanks for the recommendations not particularly what I'm lookin for though

Hmm, I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for.
It seems like you're looking for optimistic lyrics about love, with in a genre that's predominantly and loves lost, or loves that never took off, or how shitty things are going right now.
I only have a bit of Emo and Post-Hardcore, so maybe someone else might be able to help you. But I'm not sure the genre has lyrics that are quite optimistic, but I hope one band out there does and you find what you're looking for.

"The Sin in Grey" - Majority Rule, on their album Interviews With David Frost.

Don't care if you're looking for that or not; it's ****ing good.

Well if you like the heavier side of stuff, maybe look into heavier post-hardcore or emo stuff? Cap'n Jazz is Mike Kinsella too but it's heavier than American Football and has a more upbeat feel to it.

ok Capn' Jazz is up my alley thank you

american football has also hit a little bit with me, but capn' jazz, thats more punk and I love me some punk

I was wondering if anyone has some screamo recommendations for me. Here is a list of some of the stuff I'm into:
CTTS
Hot Cross
Funeral Diner
La Dispute
City of Caterpillar

Also, if anyone knows some post-hardcore stuff similar to a band like I See Stars, I'd appreciate any recommendations on that as well. thx

Of Machines!!!

Raein is a most have for screamo.

Emo/screamo necessities:

Suis La Lune
Rites of Spring
Native Nod
Moss Icon
Embrace
Cap'n Jazz
Algernon Cadwallader
Chalk Talk
Braid
Boys Life
I Hate Myself
Fire Team Charlie
Four Hundred Years
1994!
Empire! Empire! (I Was A Lonely Estate)
Braid
Christie Front Drive
Cross My Heart
Mineral
Ordination of Aaron
Midwest Penpals
Owls
Street Smart Cyclist
Snowing
Texas is the Reason
Penpal

Screamo/Post-Hardcore:

Circle Takes the Square
The Birds Are Spies, They Report to the Trees
Age Sixteen
City of Caterpillar
Pg. 99
Daïtro
The Blood Brothers
Frivolvol
Envy
Funeral Diner
Cursive
Kidcrash
La Dispute
Touche Amore
Thoughts Paint the Sky
Saetia
Suffocate for F**k Sake
Raein
Pianos Become the Teeth
Orchid
Petethepiratesquid
Merel
Love Lost But Not Forgotten
Love Like...Electrocution
Hobis

That's all I can think of off the top of my head...

In my opinnion everyone should check out these

Suis La Lune (screamo/post-hardcore)
Suffocate for **** Sake (screamo/post-hardcore/sludge/post-rock)
Envy (screamo/post-hardcore/post-rock)
At The Drive-In (post-hardcore)
Mineral (emo)

Agree on those two! I don't know the others, I'll check them later!
(btw I like your avatar! EF is great!)

I've been listening to Sunny Day Real Estate lately after quite a long time and I remembered that I just love that band. It's emo (I think though I still find it difficult to tag bands) and Diary and Rising Tide are both amazing albums!

The false archaic!
 

myspace.com/thefalsearchaic
the false archaic check them out :D

Protest the Hero
Every Time I Die
Four Year Strong
Cave In
Converge
Between The Buried And Me
Burning Airlines

Anyone like Motion City Soundtrack?

Some good bands there, but no Emo. :bonkhead:

motion city imo is the best of the poppy sounding "emo" bands out there.

skramz/jazz . . . just looking for good musicians
 

I'm looking for some new bands. Anybody out there know some bands that give off a skramz/math rock sound but are influenced by jazz? Or know of any avant-garde bands that just have some really great musicians. Thanks

Minute Men's album, Double Nickels on the Dime, is my first suggestion. You could try John Zorn for the the jazz type thing. It may not be what you're looking for but him and his work with Naked City is great in the realm of jazz. Laurie Anderson would also be great with this suggestion. As for bands with decent avant garde musicians... well, I'd have to suggest Arthur Russel's album, Another Thought. And then there's the all mighty Velvet Underground... their first album would is a must for anyone.

Okay, I'm looking for some Post-Hardcore stuff. I want something that stands out, with a memorable lead vocal. It can also have some screamo elements, I don't honestly care.

ok, half these guys are putting "screechy metal noisecore" and pop rock.real hardcore and emo kids you know who you are and so do I, so props to you guys.

HARDCORE
death threat
bane
madball
agnostic front
one life crew
gorilla biscuits
youth of today
shai hulud
25 ta life
all else failed
blood for blood
the dillinger escape plan (only their old music)
snapcase
earth crisis
strife
warzone
knives out
firstblood
champion
terror
suicidal tendencies
H20
minor threat
bad brains
black flag
death before dishonor
american nightmare(give up the ghost)
shark attack
No Turning Back
strength for a reason
(and i dont wanna overload you so im gonna stop there)

EMO
fugazi
jawbreaker
jets to brazil
jimmy eat world(the old stuff)
lifetime
mineral
sunny day real estate
texas is the reason
the get up kids

hope you take my advice and check most of these guys out

Will do. Thanks man.

La Dispute
Touché Amoré

I enjoy both of these alot and so should you. Both have really good lead vocals. La Dispute has spoken word styled vocals and Touché Amoré has screamo style vocals.

Alright. Thanks!

You have alot of good stuff here. Gotta check out the stuff i don't know too:yeah:

Check out Breaking Tradition on Facebook. We are an upcoming hardcore band in Australia and have some pretty sick tracks up you can check out :)

If anyone has stuff like this, I'd greatly appreciate it:

No one? :(

Download this dude:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IBWYbAkwvb...%5B2009%5D.jpg

Touche Amore - To the Beat of a Dead Horse

I shall!

And to clarify (which I probably should have done before), I love the insane amount of emotion they sing with. It's so real.

you guys have any suggestions for any thing abrasive thats just barely in the confines of the skramz genre. i'm hoping to find some stuff that flirts between genres. read through a lot of the thread and love a lot of the stuff you have suggested. hopefully someone can help me out, thanks.

To CanwllCorfe:

Caravels
La Dispute
Joshua Fit For Battle
Moldar
Saetia
Lumberlung
Joyce Manor(only the demo though)

There's loads more but if you want a taster of these guys look for CAvis3208 on youtube, he films all the bands similar to Touche Amore and such. He has an amzing collection of live footage.

To rotts:

Cat on Form
Bucket Full of Teeth
Combatwoundedveteren

Quite abrasive stuff ;)

I like Drive Like Jehu, Fugazi, Cap'n Jazz, Algernon Cadwallader, Snowing, La Dispute, Touche Amore, and Jawbox.

Any suggestions?

Defeater, Q and Not U, Tigers Jaw, Faraquet, (early) mewithoutYou, etc.

some I imagine you have heard, but some albums:

Slint - Spiderland
Rodan - Rusty
June of 44 - Four Great Points
Embrace - Embrace
Chavez - Ride the Fader
Bastro - Diablo Guapo
Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy

These albums have been some of my favorites lately.

Thanks! :D

I'm not even sure if Escape The Fate, Bring Me The Horizon, Asking Alexandria, etc. Is considered screamo anymore, considering the music I've heard from this thread. :o

It may owe to the original wave of screamo, but i find most of that stuff is far removed from it.

Emo and Screamo are both styles now that have gotten kinda bad names, people write off great bands they have not even heard cause they think Screamo is bands you mentioned, and Emo is stuff like Dashboard Confessional.

I used to be wanting to yell at people for that, now I just say, if they don't wanna listen to great bands because of an association with hot topic trends of today, they are not worth taking the time to educate. Their loss.

I like many of these, Q and Not U is meh to me, I view them as a poor mans At The Drive-In.

Emotive Hardcore
Cap'n Jazz
Beefeater
Fire Party
American Football
Drive Like Jehu
Sunny Day Real Estate
Rites of Spring
Embrace
Post-Hardcore
Fugazi
Nation of Ulysses
Grey Matter
Screamo
Orchid
Pg. 99
Combatwoundedveteran
Ampere
Hiretsukan
Raein
Heroin

Hardcore
Black Flag
Dead Kennedys
D.O.A.
Minor Threat
Reagan Youth
MDC
Charles Bronson
Hatred Surge
Capitalist Casualties
Man Is Bastard
Dropdead