Modest Mouse

Violent & Funky · 08-13-2009, 09:32 PM

Yeah, 'The World At Large' is a great tune and thusly is the first real song on the album. 'Interlude (Milo)' is exactly what it's called, an interlude. You could make the argument that just about any interlude is "filler". As for 'This Devil's Workday', it's obviously unique, but I thought that's what Modest Mouse fans want? That song clearly paints a different picture than the status quo that Good News is a mainstream album...

sidewinder · 08-14-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by trace87

Good News was my introduction to Modest Mouse. I mean it has its moments but for me is kinda hollow. It has this kinda fake feel to me. Like Brock is trying SOOO hard to keep his edge intact while having this super polished sound that was a continuation from The Moon & Antarctica(first album with major label). The album has it's successes, but it is certainly not without its share of failures too.

I pretty much agree with this (except it wasn't my introduction). The only songs on Good News... that I actually like are Ocean Breathes Salty, Bury Me With It, Bukowski, Satin in a Coffin, Black Cadillacs. Well ok that's almost half, but it's not like I love them either. The rest I either can't stand or they feel like filler, so overall I don't like the album. Some of the singing is downright cringe-worthy (though not as bad as the following album...it was just a preview of what was to come), and tracks like "The Good Times are Killing Me" really sum it up nicely...more like "this fucking album is killing me" by the time that comes around.

Yes, harsh words for a band I used to love. As I've said before, what it comes down to for me is a loss of sincerity in the sound.

Violent & Funky · 08-15-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder

I pretty much agree with this (except it wasn't my introduction). The only songs on Good News... that I actually like are Ocean Breathes Salty, Bury Me With It, Bukowski, Satin in a Coffin, Black Cadillacs. Well ok that's almost half, but it's not like I love them either. The rest I either can't stand or they feel like filler, so overall I don't like the album. Some of the singing is downright cringe-worthy (though not as bad as the following album...it was just a preview of what was to come), and tracks like "The Good Times are Killing Me" really sum it up nicely...more like "this fucking album is killing me" by the time that comes around.

Yes, harsh words for a band I used to love. As I've said before, what it comes down to for me is a loss of sincerity in the sound.

'Float On' gets overplayed but it is an excellent pop song. 'The View' and 'One Chance' are two of my favorite Modest Mouse songs. The middle of the album is more tolerable than memorable, but I like the vibe it gives off when you listen to the album as a whole...

TheBig3 · 08-26-2009, 09:47 PM

I heard King Rat yesterday from "No ones first, and you're next" and it was probably the best thing I've heard in months.

Modest Mouse is displaying a brilliant understanding of what sounds to be like Talking Heads and Tom Waits together. And King Rat has displayed that message again - quirky grooves and ambient raw instrumentation.

I've checked out the rest of the album but nothing is striking me quite as much. Ultimately it cuts to the depths of what I really like about music. All the instrumentation sounds like paint sloppily tossed at the canvas, but represents elements of the life, or the characteristics of the tumultuous characters created in the songs.

The world has created some natural beauty out there, and there are times when I would recant such a statement, but what will win me over more often than the highest mountains or the most beautiful forests is the tiny aberrations in civilized society, and the music that attempts to interpret those aberrations and the confusion around them through dissonant, jarring music.

Modest Mouse is becoming one of the finest artists in the 21st century. King Rat does nothing to disprove this.

debaserr · 08-27-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I heard King Rat yesterday from "No ones first, and you're next" and it was probably the best thing I've heard in months.

Modest Mouse is displaying a brilliant understanding of what sounds to be like Talking Heads and Tom Waits together. And King Rat has displayed that message again - quirky grooves and ambient raw instrumentation.

I've checked out the rest of the album but nothing is striking me quite as much. Ultimately it cuts to the depths of what I really like about music. All the instrumentation sounds like paint sloppily tossed at the canvas, but represents elements of the life, or the characteristics of the tumultuous characters created in the songs.

The world has created some natural beauty out there, and there are times when I would recant such a statement, but what will win me over more often than the highest mountains or the most beautiful forests is the tiny aberrations in civilized society, and the music that attempts to interpret those aberrations and the confusion around them through dissonant, jarring music.

Modest Mouse is becoming one of the finest artists in the 21st century. King Rat does nothing to disprove this.

ehh they seem to be on the downturn, HOPE IM WRONG.

TheBig3 · 08-27-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by trace87

ehh they seem to be on the downturn, HOPE IM WRONG.

They seem to be on a downturn? How so? I think their on the biggest upswing of their career and this isn't even a proper album.

debaserr · 08-27-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

They seem to be on a downturn? How so? I think their on the biggest upswing of their career and this isn't even a proper album.

i prefer their pre Good News material by a longshot. and i thought the new EP was mediocre.

TheBig3 · 08-27-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by trace87

i prefer their pre Good News material by a longshot. and i thought the new EP was mediocre.

Well I think its outtakes from two older albums. So I'm not sure this was an album so much as a contract obligation filler.

The other thing is I generally love anything with horns. And I have to ask, because its my nature, but do you think you don't like the album or the critical acclaim because Good News is when they blew up by exponential figures.

I'm always weary about things like that. To me the best thing about Good News... was not "Float On" but "Bukowski" and similalry with Ship Sank... not "Dashboard" but "March into the Sea" or "Missed the Boat."

debaserr · 08-27-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Well I think its outtakes from two older albums. So I'm not sure this was an album so much as a contract obligation filler.

The other thing is I generally love anything with horns. And I have to ask, because its my nature, but do you think you don't like the album or the critical acclaim because Good News is when they blew up by exponential figures.

I'm always weary about things like that. To me the best thing about Good News... was not "Float On" but "Bukowski" and similalry with Ship Sank... not "Dashboard" but "March into the Sea" or "Missed the Boat."

Good News was my intro to the band. I just prefer the older stuff.

I concur those are better, but my faves from those albums are: Bury Me With It, The View, Satin In A Coffin / Florida, Missed The Boat, and People As Places As People.

Modest Mouse is one of my favorite bands FYI.

Engine · 08-28-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacebirdmatingcall

Same. Sad Sappy Sucker is awesome

Their worst in my opinion. But I have a lot of love for all of their pre-00s stuff.

08-26-2009, 09:47 PM	#474 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	I heard King Rat yesterday from "No ones first, and you're next" and it was probably the best thing I've heard in months. Modest Mouse is displaying a brilliant understanding of what sounds to be like Talking Heads and Tom Waits together. And King Rat has displayed that message again - quirky grooves and ambient raw instrumentation. I've checked out the rest of the album but nothing is striking me quite as much. Ultimately it cuts to the depths of what I really like about music. All the instrumentation sounds like paint sloppily tossed at the canvas, but represents elements of the life, or the characteristics of the tumultuous characters created in the songs. The world has created some natural beauty out there, and there are times when I would recant such a statement, but what will win me over more often than the highest mountains or the most beautiful forests is the tiny aberrations in civilized society, and the music that attempts to interpret those aberrations and the confusion around them through dissonant, jarring music. Modest Mouse is becoming one of the finest artists in the 21st century. King Rat does nothing to disprove this. __________________ I've moved to a new address

08-13-2009, 09:32 PM	#471 (permalink)
Violent & Funky FUNky Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 2,482	Yeah, 'The World At Large' is a great tune and thusly is the first real song on the album. 'Interlude (Milo)' is exactly what it's called, an interlude. You could make the argument that just about any interlude is "filler". As for 'This Devil's Workday', it's obviously unique, but I thought that's what Modest Mouse fans want? That song clearly paints a different picture than the status quo that Good News is a mainstream album...