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The Indie Bar Kid 03-09-2005 01:14 PM

The Bravery vs. Kaiser Chiefs
 
Since Bloc Party don't look like they're gonna blow up into the mainstream this year as promised, I think Kaiser Chiefs and The Bravery will be this years Franz and Killers. But which will be bigger? Or are they both completely ****. Discuss. Also feel free to use this as a thread to debate which of the two have the highest accumalitive penis size.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 03-09-2005 01:19 PM

The Bravery.

Kaiser Chiefs suck so much. Really really really really bad..... They're just Franz Ferdinand but slightly different. Why anyone would choose to sound like Franz is beyond me though :confused:

The Indie Bar Kid 03-09-2005 01:27 PM

I know this may damage our already shaky relationship, my love, but I think The Kaisere sound feck all llike Franz. There much poppier and less serious than Franz, but I would have to agree with The Bravery vote. Anyone heard the album- it's free on the NME... check it out it's extremely good I think, on first impressions.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 03-09-2005 01:32 PM

That "already shaky" made us sound like a couple going through a mid-life crisis... Aw you know I love ya really :) But the Kaisers do sound a lot like Franz, just with a new twist. Im sure other people agree with me? *Waits for noone to agree*

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-09-2005 02:07 PM

Well i`ve heard 2 Kaiser Chiefs songs & neither sounded like the other so i`m not sure what to expect on the album.

I quite like the Bravery , i`ve seen them being slagged off by the music press for being yet another new wave style band but I put that down to them not being the next big Brit thing.

Sneer 03-10-2005 07:21 AM

well, the bravery piss me off so very much. honest mistake is the worst song ive heard all year (no exaggeration) and unconditional was ok for the first couple of listens. the kaiser chiefs on the other hand are really cool in my opinion. oh my god is so catchy its untrue, one of the best choruses ive heard for a while. i predict a riot is also a sweet pop-rock tune. i think AITA is one mind bending drugs or something because they sound NOTHING like franz ferdinand. my vote goes with the kaiser chiefs fa' sur'

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-11-2005 10:57 AM

Got the Kasier Cheifs album today , they sound more like the Jam with synths than Franz Ferdinand to me

The Indie Bar Kid 03-11-2005 03:36 PM

Well now Ive got both albums in my dirty grimy (pink) mittens, I have to say there both really great, but surprisingly the Kaiser Employment is much more well rounded than The Bravery which has a couple of dodgy tracks, much to my dissatisfaction... Still Unconditional bests any Oh My God or I Predict A Riot on Employment. The Bravery seem to inject more feeling into the songs, and are doing something a bit more original than KCs. Whatever, Im happy to have to really great bands like these.

Sneer 03-12-2005 08:33 AM

original? their just hanging on to the coat tails of the killers.

TheBig3 03-13-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu
well, the bravery piss me off so very much. honest mistake is the worst song ive heard all year (no exaggeration) and unconditional was ok for the first couple of listens. the kaiser chiefs on the other hand are really cool in my opinion. oh my god is so catchy its untrue, one of the best choruses ive heard for a while. i predict a riot is also a sweet pop-rock tune. i think AITA is one mind bending drugs or something because they sound NOTHING like franz ferdinand. my vote goes with the kaiser chiefs fa' sur'

Its march, wait for the soundtrack to the obligatory rap movie that gets all the untalented pop rappers to **** out a music and get them a check. Coming this July.

TheBig3 03-13-2005 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indie Bar Kid
Well now Ive got both albums in my dirty grimy (pink) mittens, I have to say there both really great, but surprisingly the Kaiser Employment is much more well rounded than The Bravery which has a couple of dodgy tracks, much to my dissatisfaction... Still Unconditional bests any Oh My God or I Predict A Riot on Employment. The Bravery seem to inject more feeling into the songs, and are doing something a bit more original than KCs. Whatever, Im happy to have to really great bands like these.

MORE FEELING?

THEY SING WITH LESS EMOTION THAN JOHN MCCREA, WHERES THE BASIS?????????

ArtistInTheAmbulance 03-22-2005 10:26 AM

Ok, I've heard more of the Kaiser Cheifs now, and I'd like to take back my Franz Ferdinand comment... But Im still sticking with the Bravery as the better band. I still hate the Kaisers...

Soundgardener 03-22-2005 04:12 PM

they're both getting more and more mainstream...

The Indie Bar Kid 03-23-2005 12:35 PM

The lyrics and vocals are bordering on emo *SHIVERS* for Dogs sake! Have you not heard Honest Mistake... How can you not see the huge emotional difference between Sam Endicott whining "I just want- I just want love" and Ricky Cant-Remember-His-Surname-Cos-Im-In-A-Fit-Of-Rage barking "I predict a riot- I predict a riot" ? Thats not to put Kaiser Chiefs down, theyre trying to do completely different things.

And stop making the Killers- Bravery comparisons... It's so lazy. Theyre really different, The Bravery don't even have synths. Listen to Hot Fuss, then the Bravery album and you'll see how different they are.

Damn! Where'd that bucket of chill pills go?

Sneer 03-23-2005 12:42 PM

i do apologise for immediatly thinking of the killers when i hear the bravery.

The Indie Bar Kid 03-24-2005 08:23 AM

*Accepts sarcastic apology*

Jade 03-25-2005 01:41 PM

I can't stand the Bravery, I don't understand the big hype surrounding them, they're really nothing special, not that The Kaiser Chiefs are, but Oh My God is quite catchy and I'll listen to the Kaiser's if I have to.

adidasss 04-17-2005 01:45 PM

who is better..no contest!
 
the bravery ofcourse, i really don't understand the comparison between kaiser chiefs and franz ferdinand...kaiser chiefs r brit rock not new wave and have one great song..i predict a riot others dont come close...
but to move on i downloaded the latest hot hot heat album - elevator and i just couldn't help but to spread the word...EXELENTE..MUY EXELENTE!!!
the bravery are awsome..i would say slightly better that the killers cause they have more songs ( they each have one dodgy song in my opinion - the killers the last song and the bravery give in )..but hot hot heat.. not a single weaker song..fantastic...way better then the first one..i also like bloc party franz, the killers the arcade fire, interpol and the kings of leon...i can't belive how much great music im listening to in the last 3 months...i've discovered a new great band or album every week...its been crazy!!

ArtistInTheAmbulance 04-17-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
the bravery ofcourse, i really don't understand the comparison between kaiser chiefs and franz ferdinand...kaiser chiefs r brit rock not new wave and have one great song..i predict a riot others dont come close...

Yeah, yeah, alright. If you had read on further you would see I took back that comment after hearing more of the Kaiser Cheifs, so is everyone done with that now? Jeez...

marko1892 04-18-2005 05:27 PM

Think the bravery will be much bigger in my opinion. There a good band, but the lead singer does look like morrissey. no question about it

Supersonic 04-18-2005 05:29 PM

I quite like both, but neither are outstanding or will break into the mainstream like Franz did last year, simply because their albums just aren't that good!

Both have a few good tracks, but as a whole I don't find either album particularly compelling or feel the need to listen to the whole thing through.

Probably prefer the Bravery out of the two, they're just a bit different to everything else about at the moment.

Their lead singer is a bit of a nob mind.

marko1892 04-18-2005 05:34 PM

i havent heard the kaiser chiefs album, the bravery one is ok, but only a few tracks hit me to be honest.

I actually do find the Kaiser Chiefs a bit annoying at times.

Sneer 04-24-2005 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic
I quite like both, but neither are outstanding or will break into the mainstream like Franz did last year, simply because their albums just aren't that good!

Both have a few good tracks, but as a whole I don't find either album particularly compelling or feel the need to listen to the whole thing through.

Probably prefer the Bravery out of the two, they're just a bit different to everything else about at the moment.

Their lead singer is a bit of a nob mind.

id say their both pretty mainstream already.

coffeeshop 04-24-2005 09:37 AM

Both seem okish. I prefer The Bravery from that one song I heard. :)

Sneer 04-24-2005 09:39 AM

sons and daughters blow them both out of the water at the moment. damn adeles fiiiiiiiine.

AprilMay 04-25-2005 05:41 AM

Woo. Sons and Daughters, what a great band. The song Johnny Cash is great.
I prefer The Bravery to The Kaiser Cheifs, I am unsure why. Maybe it is because i am shallow and think Sam Endicott is better looking that Ricky Wilson.

adidasss 04-27-2005 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu
sons and daughters blow them both out of the water at the moment. damn adeles fiiiiiiiine.

well i heard johnny cash...it's alright, very scotish and thus , i my opinion uncomparable with the two...what does that last part mean?

TheBig3 04-27-2005 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepStu
id say their both pretty mainstream already.

maybe over there, certainly not in the states. I'd say I live in an openminded place, and the only other slot they might be mainstream in is California, but I think the rest of the US has no idea.

Sneer 04-28-2005 01:26 PM

i would of thought the bravery had gained recognition in their home nation. yup both huge over here atm.

kiki chunt 04-30-2005 08:13 AM

The Chiefs - all the way, although I think they'll probably aspire to more of an honorary 'Dogs Die In Hot Cars'-hood.
'Oh My God' was on BBC radio6 music's playlist for a few weeks like about 8 months before it's release -I was going mad waiting for a copy of it the whole time . . . =o[

To be honest, haven't heard so much of The Bravery, but not terribly impressed with them so far - reckon they aren't really looking for old crusties like me for fans anyhoo, but I reckon they have quite a bit of catching up to do on Franz F and their charming schoolboy-esque pop theatricality (awwww - bless!)

Looking forward to seeing the Kaiser Chiefs at Glastonbury Festival this year - pretty keen to see The Killers there too, seeing as they're on the bill: 'All these things I've done' is like the single most holistically perfect piece of proper rock 'n'roll released for years IMhO, and I can't believe it wasn't a bigger hit than it was - strange, all the other singles released from Hot Fuss are pretty damned good too, but sound so much more like a British indie act than an American outfit.

Sneer 04-30-2005 08:41 AM

the only problem with a lot of these bands at the moment is it all seems pretty generic and samey. i like hot hot heats new album though. very good.

adidasss 04-30-2005 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepStu
the only problem with a lot of these bands at the moment is it all seems pretty generic and samey. i like hot hot heats new album though. very good.

what do u mean generic...the only two that can sorta be compared are the bravery and the killers, i don't see much resemblance between bloc party and franz, interpol is also very different, not to mention hot hot heat, whose elevator is not just very good, it's excellent, with every song a potential single.i thought they looked pretty stupid on the video though, like the partridge family...they could have looked way cooler.

adidasss 06-09-2005 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepStu
sons and daughters blow them both out of the water at the moment. damn adeles fiiiiiiiine.

hehe...i just listened to the album....hehehe....it's like rockabilly wild west music , and i could see it being a soundtrack for a really bad spagheti western movie....i imagined myself riding into the sunset on my horse whilst listening to them....hilarious....

.angie. 06-09-2005 01:25 PM

i like the bravery better. they were on some late night show thingy a few nights ago.. then the kaiser chiefs were on some other show last night, i hate them. the lead singer looks like he's having a seizure.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 06-09-2005 01:27 PM

^Haha too true... The Kaisers just drive me insane, I cant stick 'em. Sometimes catchy is good, but theyre not good. Really.

.angie. 06-09-2005 01:31 PM

yeah, plus the kaiser chiefs are ugly.. the lead singer of the bravery has nice hair.:rolleyes:

shandapanda 06-09-2005 06:07 PM

i'm a fan of both bands but i think, commercially at least, that the chiefs are more popular. if i hadn't bought Qmag or Uncut i would just have heard of the Bravery. The Chiefs are definately getting more exposure here....

EDGE 06-09-2005 06:52 PM

Bravery.

Sneer 06-10-2005 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by .angie.
yeah, plus the kaiser chiefs are ugly.. the lead singer of the bravery has nice hair.:rolleyes:

thus that makes them better?

Sneer 06-10-2005 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss
what do u mean generic...the only two that can sorta be compared are the bravery and the killers, i don't see much resemblance between bloc party and franz, interpol is also very different, not to mention hot hot heat, whose elevator is not just very good, it's excellent, with every song a potential single.i thought they looked pretty stupid on the video though, like the partridge family...they could have looked way cooler.

interpol are nothing unique. we've all seen similiar stuff before them and we'll see similar stuff after them. bloc party & franz ferdinand are all about the frenetic guitar and sciffle drum beats. then you have your embraces, athletes, keanes etc. coldplay clones. HHH are good but again nothing unique. the kooks, the rapture etc very similiar.


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