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AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 06:26 AM

American Indie, Lo-Fi, Noise-Pop Bands?
 
Who else can't get enough of this indie, lo-fi surf-esque sound coming out of America from bands such as Best Coast, Wavves, Dum Dum Girls, Cults etc.

Personally I adore the sound, it's like the soundtrack to a summers day in California.

If you haven't heard it already, you should definitely check out one of the bands I suggested. (Preferably Best Coast)

Who agrees? Who Disagrees? And Why!?

James 10-23-2010 06:32 AM

I partially agree, a lot of the bands are fairly good. Best Coast, Girls and Surfer Blood especially. But I think Wavves is terrible, I hate him.

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 06:38 AM

Yes Girls and Surfer Blood! I forgot. Oh yeah I wasn't a fan of Wavves until I heard his third LP release 'King Of The Beach'. If you have heard and still aren't a fan then fair enough, but if you haven't heard it... give it a little listen, it might convert you as it did me ! :D

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 06:41 AM

I'm like James, I partially agree.

It's alright.

Dayvan Cowboy 10-23-2010 06:46 AM

I don't know why, but one day I had the sudden impulse to get Surfer Blood's Astrocoast. I usually have no interest in that kind of music, but I really wanted to get it for no reason. The Verdict: One of the best albums of 2010. It'll probably show up on my top 10 list in the near future.

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 06:47 AM

So you guys kinda like the sound but aren't crazy for it like I am then? Ahah, I guess I'm disappointed... perhaps my taste for the music is driven by a constant desire to visit California in the summer!

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 06:49 AM

I like some of it, but it's just a fad.
The latest trend, and a lot of bands use the cool Indie Lo-Fi to blanket the lack of quality in their songs.
But some of it is really good.
Girls and No Age - I like them.

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayvan Cowboy (Post 946806)
I don't know why, but one day I had the sudden impulse to get Surfer Blood's Astrocoast. I usually have no interest in that kind of music, but I really wanted to get it for no reason. The Verdict: One of the best albums of 2010. It'll probably show up on my top 10 list in the near future.

Ah I love it when that happens! When for a minute or two your mind just opens to something new and your'e either disappointed by the result and stick to what you know or in your case you find something new to keep you happy for a while.

:( I was at leeds festival in england this year and missed the chance to see Surfer Blood, I was pretty bummed out about it!

Dayvan Cowboy 10-23-2010 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946809)
I like some of it, but it's just a fad.
The latest trend, and a lot of bands use the cool Indie Lo-Fi to blanket the lack of quality in their songs.
But some of it is really good.
Girls and No Age - I like them.

YOU'RE LISTENING TO SIRIUS ALTERNATIVE ROCK RADIO! your source of all of the alternative hits!

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946809)
I like some of it, but it's just a fad.
The latest trend, and a lot of bands use the cool Indie Lo-Fi to blanket the lack of quality in their songs.
But some of it is really good.
Girls and No Age - I like them.

Yeah, I agree with that... I can see that it is a trend and I'm normally against following trends for the sake of following trends, but in this case I actually really dig it! Best Coast is my favourite of them all. I haven't heard No Age, what are they like?

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayvan Cowboy (Post 946811)
SIRIUS ALTERNATIVE ROCK RADIO! your source of all of the alternative hits!

Urm...

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Originally Posted by AudioNutrition (Post 946813)
Yeah, I agree with that... I can see that it is a trend and I'm normally against following trends for the sake of following trends, but in this case I actually really dig it! Best Coast is my favourite of them all. I haven't heard No Age, what are they like?

What are they like?
Every other Indie, Lo-Fi, Noise-Pop band that are floating around at the moment.
So, you should enjoy their debut "Nouns"

Even though it is just a fad, usually fads are much worse.
Girls debut album was definitely a top 10 album from that year, I hope they release a second soon.
They're definitely the best band out of the genre.
I wonder if Japandroids count? They're pretty great too.

Dayvan Cowboy 10-23-2010 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946815)
Urm...

I said that because you just described 99% of the music on the alternative station on Sirius Satellite Radio.
even worse is the fact that my mom only listens to that station, and when she does, she listens to it for hours on end.

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946815)
What are they like?
Every other Indie, Lo-Fi, Noise-Pop band that are floating around at the moment.
So, you should enjoy their debut "Nouns"

Even though it is just a fad, usually fads are much worse.
Girls debut album was definitely a top 10 album from that year, I hope they release a second soon.
They're definitely the best band out of the genre.
I wonder if Japandroids count? They're pretty great too.


Hmm yeah, I suppose but in my opinion there are still big differences between the bands. I like Girls album quite a lot but I wouldn't say it sounded like Best Coasts album, which I feel is more surf-rock-eque where as Girls, for me sounds more towards the traditional indie-rock side of the spectrum. They do have there similarities in some of the vocal stylings and lo-fidelity guitars, but there are noticeable and distinguishable differences, no?

And yes again Japandroids - Post Nothing album is very good for me, I would say they count. :)

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayvan Cowboy (Post 946820)
I said that because you just described 99% of the music on the alternative station on Sirius Satellite Radio.

Oh, I have no idea what Sirius Radio is. What kind of bands do they play?

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Originally Posted by AudioNutrition (Post 946821)
Hmm yeah, I suppose but in my opinion there are still big differences between the bands. I like Girls album quite a lot but I wouldn't say it sounded like Best Coasts album, which I feel is more surf-rock-eque where as Girls, for me sounds more towards the traditional indie-rock side of the spectrum. They do have there similarities in some of the vocal stylings and lo-fidelity guitars, but there are noticeable and distinguishable differences, no?

And yes again Japandroids - Post Nothing album is very good for me, I would say they count. :)

Maybe that's why Best Coast's album is inferior and Girls' Album is a far better record. I think Girls' album will stand the test of time, their album has a bit of Elvis Costello, a bit of Beach Boys, a bit of Buddy Holly and a bit of Jesus & the Mary Chain in there. The influences were plain to see, and I think it will hold up as a decent album. I think Best Coast are probably one of the worst out of the lo-fi surf pop stuff that's coming out at the moment, but different folks for different folks I guess.

In that case - Japandroids, No Age and Girls FTW.

Dayvan Cowboy 10-23-2010 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946824)
Oh, I have no idea what Sirius Radio is. What kind of bands do they play?

it's some satellite radio thing. Since my mom only listens to one station, I have no clue about the other channels. Apparently there's a Downtempo Electronica channel, but I haven't listened to it yet.

the stuff that the Alternative Channel plays is usually the stuff that either:
A: has been hyped to a god-like status by Pitchfork or
B: is the kind of music that is too boring to remember, because it ALL SOUNDS EXACTLY THE SAME.

Usually it's stuff like The Drums, Cage The Elephant and sometimes Tegan and Sara.

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946824)
Maybe that's why Best Coast's album is inferior and Girls' Album is a far better record. I think Girls' album will stand the test of time, their album has a bit of Elvis Costello, a bit of Beach Boys, a bit of Buddy Holly and a bit of Jesus & the Mary Chain in there. The influences were plain to see, and I think it will hold up as a decent album. I think Best Coast are probably one of the worst out of the lo-fi surf pop stuff that's coming out at the moment, but different folks for different folks I guess.

In that case - Japandroids, No Age and Girls FTW.

Oh right, I can feel your overwhelming love for Best Coast. Music is an art, it's subjective. I won't waste any time trying to convince you of Best Coast, but don't you think its not necessarily how well an album will stand the test of time that makes it a good record? But sometimes the influence an album can have on the music industry, however. An album that has good influences and is solid all round could be perceived as 'decent' by one person and 'boring' by another? I'm a fan, don't get me wrong... just food for thought

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 07:27 AM

I think if something stands the test of time, it makes for a good album - more so than say, something that was popular for a little while but become tiresome after a certain amount of time. Of course, albums that have an influence on the music industry are good albums (in theory, but then music is subjective as you say.) but them type of albums HAVE stood the test of time, because they've left a lasting impression.

Best Coast's Crazy for You was a decent enough listen, but it sounded quite generic and pretty typical. I certainly don't think it'll have too much of an impact.

James 10-23-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayvan Cowboy (Post 946827)
the stuff that the Alternative Channel plays is usually the stuff that either:
A: has been hyped to a god-like status by Pitchfork or
.

All the stuff you like then?

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 946835)
All the stuff you like then?

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...4/blackkid.gif

He has a point tbf

Dayvan Cowboy 10-23-2010 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 946835)
All the stuff you like then?

The only band that fits that criteria is Animal Collective, and it's members. That's it.

James 10-23-2010 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayvan Cowboy (Post 946838)
The only band that fits that criteria is Animal Collective, and it's members. That's it.

Boards of Canada? Tbh every modern band you love seems to be fapped over by the indie kids you insult so often. It's a little hypocritical.

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946833)
I think if something stands the test of time, it makes for a good album - more so than say, something that was popular for a little while but become tiresome after a certain amount of time. Of course, albums that have an influence on the music industry are good albums (in theory, but then music is subjective as you say.) but them type of albums HAVE stood the test of time, because they've left a lasting impression.

Best Coast's Crazy for You was a decent enough listen, but it sounded quite generic and pretty typical. I certainly don't think it'll have too much of an impact.


I can see this debate going further than it needs to... You could say that any popular form of music these days is pretty generic, but that would going unnecessarily far for the sake of justification. They are both great bands, I agree with you that Girls music has the potential to be popular for a longer period of time... whether its better however, is an opinion we are both entitled to.

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946837)


That made me LOL!

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AudioNutrition (Post 946840)
I can see this debate going further than it needs to... You could say that any popular form of music these days is pretty generic, but that would going unnecessarily far for the sake of justification. They are both great bands, I agree with you that Girls music has the potential to be popular for a longer period of time... whether its better however, is an opinion we are both entitled to.

Aye, like I said before - different strokes for different folks.
It is just a fad, but it's quite an enjoyable one.
Better than the Nu-Metal fad a few years ago.
Jesus Christ that was dire.

I haven't seen you about before now, did you have an intro thread?
I never bothered with one of them when I signed up.
Where abouts in the UK are you from?

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946842)
Aye, like I said before - different strokes for different folks.
It is just a fad, but it's quite an enjoyable one.
Better than the Nu-Metal fad a few years ago.
Jesus Christ that was dire.

I haven't seen you about before now, did you have an intro thread?
I never bothered with one of them when I signed up.
Where abouts in the UK are you from?

Haha oh dear, is there nothing we can agree on? I'm into the whole nu-metal thing... limp bizkit, slipknot, korn etc. (sorry lol)

Urm I have been on this forum before and read a few threads, I only signed up this morning. Kind of in support of a music blog I started up a few days ago, for networking purposes and stuff. No, I didn't have an intro thread, although I may post one. I'm from Nottingham, your'e from Manchester I believe I saw?

Dayvan Cowboy 10-23-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 946839)
Boards of Canada? Tbh every modern band you love seems to be fapped over by the indie kids you insult so often. It's a little hypocritical.

A list of modern bands I like that pitchfork doesn't like or hasn't reviewed:
The Mars Volta
Storm&Stress
Extra Life
VHS Head (they only reviewed the EP, not the new album)
!!! (pitchfork seems to think !!! is "Just okay", and they haven't been hyped at all)

also, BOC are currently dead to me because they're being too secretive.

James 10-23-2010 07:58 AM

Deftones are fantastic and they are often called Nu Metal.

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 07:59 AM

I can't even articulate how dire Nu-Metal is, it genuinely disgusts me.
I'm sure there's some stuff we'll agree on.
We may find some common ground.

You should start an intro thread and list a few of your favourite bands, so everyone can judge you. :D
My friend recently moved to Nottingham, from Manchester.
With his girlfriend/fiance of 4 months at the time.
The absolute fucking pillock.


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Originally Posted by Dayvan Cowboy (Post 946847)
A list of modern bands I like that pitchfork doesn't like or hasn't reviewed:
The Mars Volta
Storm&Stress
Extra Life
VHS Head (they only reviewed the EP, not the new album)
!!! (pitchfork seems to think !!! is "Just okay", and they haven't been hyped at all)

also, BOC are currently dead to me because they're being too secretive.

Godspeed You! Black Emperor?

Dayvan Cowboy 10-23-2010 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946849)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor?

Just because I like a few bands that pitchfork likes doesn't mean I'm pure indie kid.

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 946848)
Deftones are fantastic and they are often called Nu Metal.

Are they?

I thought they were Alt Rock/Experimental Rock...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayvan Cowboy (Post 946853)
Just because I like a few bands that pitchfork likes doesn't mean I'm pure indie kid.

http://www.groovy-layouts.com/Images...nial-Egypt.gif

ROFLCOPTER!!!!11ONE¬1

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 946848)
Deftones are fantastic and they are often called Nu Metal.

Good point :)

James 10-23-2010 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayvan Cowboy (Post 946847)
A list of modern bands I like that pitchfork doesn't like or hasn't reviewed:
The Mars Volta
Storm&Stress
Extra Life
VHS Head (they only reviewed the EP, not the new album)
!!! (pitchfork seems to think !!! is "Just okay", and they haven't been hyped at all)

also, BOC are currently dead to me because they're being too secretive.

Fair enough
You've been into them what a week?
You've been into them what two days?
So? They still gave it a 7.
8/10 for Myth Takes is a good rating.

Anyway, the point is you bitch about hipsters and pitchfork all the time when you're the only hipster here that i know of. You think anyone else here gives a crap about their charts being "mainstream"? That's strictly a hipster thing.

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 946856)
Anyway, the point is you bitch about hipsters and pitchfork all the time when you're the only hipster here that i know of. You think anyone else here gives a crap about their charts being "mainstream"? That's strictly a hipster thing.

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/HATIN.gif

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946849)
I can't even articulate how dire Nu-Metal is, it genuinely disgusts me.
I'm sure there's some stuff we'll agree on.
We may find some common ground.

You should start an intro thread and list a few of your favourite bands, so everyone can judge you. :D
My friend recently moved to Nottingham, from Manchester.
With his girlfriend/fiance of 4 months at the time.
The absolute fucking pillock.

LOL, why is that? Are you a metal purist or... Just not a fan of metal in general? Yeah hopefully we find common ground, but differences are good in some ways.

Yeah I think ill do it now actually. Are there any strict rules about advertising on here? I mean if I wanted to add a link to my blog, would it be removed?
Ah right he took the plunge after 4 months eh? Brave guy. Has he said how it compares?

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 08:15 AM

I'm not one of those that believes in TROO-METAL!!!!11
But I do like Metal somewhat.
I just think Nu-Metal was an absolutely dire fad, and I'm glad it died on its arse.
Deftones are Experimental Rawk, and aren't particularly great anyway.

There are rules against advertising yes, a lot of people sign up to promote their stuff before their eventual banning.
But you seem to be contributing to the forum, so I'm not sure - I think it'd be best not to post your blog but it's always best to consult a mod.

He hasn't, but he doesn't need to.
Manchester is clearly better.
That said, I wouldn't mind a change of scenery but I doubt that'd happen.

AudioNutrition 10-23-2010 08:21 AM

Ah right yeah I can see where you are coming from but, I'm into it a lot, I don't what else to say haha.

Damn, ok, I'll either contact a mod or just post subtle information so that people can find the blog if they want to. The link is on my profile and that.

Your'e a fan of your home city then? I've only visited manchester a couple times so I couldn't say. Nottingham isn't too bad, depends where abouts you are in Nottingham and what criteria you want to rate it on I guess.

Violent & Funky 10-23-2010 09:37 AM

I like how the Deftones have to be a different genre just because you don't like nu metal. :laughing:

Nu metal was just like any other trend in music, most of the highly publicized bands sucked, but there were some gems if you looked for them (System of a Down, Deftones, etc.). And since I've only made this point 99 times, KoRn's self-titled from 1994 is excellent as well.

As for this current indie trend, Astro Coast is probably my favorite album of the year, but other than that the only other bands mentioned that I have heard are Wavves, No Age, and Japandroids. I don't think No Age really applies to this group, but they are awesome too. I have a Girls album and a Best Coast album around here somewhere so I'll have to get around to listening to those...

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 09:41 AM

I don't give a fuck about The Deftones, they're extremely mediocre and they can stand along side a load of other Nu Metal dross for all I care.

James 10-23-2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 946880)
I don't give a fuck about The Deftones, they're extremely mediocre and they can stand along side a load of other Nu Metal dross for all I care.

Shame on you. Deftones are an outstanding band. What Metal do you actually like?

TheCunningStunt 10-23-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 946893)
Shame on you. Deftones are an outstanding band. What Metal do you actually like?

Black Sabbath, Slayer, Melvins, RATM, Motorhead.

Few other bands, Deftones are k.


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