I'm pretty sure the Best of the Libertines only had three songs off that album.

their second album is the best of..

:whythis:

No, no it's not. I realise you like it mate but unless you're reading the likes of NME, you're going to find most people who aren't diehard Libertine fans don't think it's that good. It wasn't terrible, I was just expecting so much more after UTB.

The way U feel about their 2nd album is the way I feel about UTB, some good tracks but as awhole it's not as good as their second album. UTB is has a raw punkness to it and the 2nd one is more focused.

if I ever had a band this is what i'd want it to sound like


(love how you can hear pete scream on 1:19, an how he almost knocks over the mike, so cool)

I don't understand
You want to sound like the video
And that song is off the first album
When they were more raw and punk

And yet you liked the first album less for thoose very reasons
???

Anyways, When I saw them on Letterman
That was the first time I had ever heard of them
And thats what got me into them
Even though thats probably one of their worst song

That's one of the few songs I liked on UTB. But I do love the sound. I liked the second album more because it was my first taste and I listened it to it for so long that, I thought that was their sound, until I heard UTB which is more punk. I didn't mean I liked it UTB because of it's rawness. I'm listening to UTB while I type this, and I'm starting to like it more, but I still like their second better.

Dude...more FOCUSED? Are you for real? The only thing it focuses on better is not having the songs. I'm going to have to do a song by song breakdown if this nonsense continues!

Please do!

Srsly why do you guys care that I like the second one the best? I do love UTB but the second one just really speaks to me more, I don't know why. No matter how much you tell me i'm wrong I won't care because "I get along singing my song, people tell me I'm wrong..**** 'em!"

In deciding to do a Libs lyrical quote, the only thing mildly appropriate and worth taking out of context are the words to a song off of...yes, Up The Bracket.

I think that just about sums up the worthlessness of the second album. :D

it's not worthless....

Maybe if you didn't post about 20 times saying that people might lay off.

Or if you backed up and explained your opinions instead of repeating the same statement with different words 20 times.

Alright evryone gang up on me. I like the Libertines because the lyrics are brillant and the album signals the end of a wonderful band and music partnership of Pete Doherty and Carl Barat.
Can't Stand Me now

Carls sings:
An ending fitting for the start
you twist and tore our love apart
your light fingers through the dark
that shattered the lamp and into the darkness cast us...
Pete sings:
No you've got it the wrong way round
you shut me up and blamed it on the brown
cornered the boy kicked out at the world...the world kicked back
alot ****in' harder now

If you wanna try, If you wanna try
there's no worse you could do (oh oh oh)
I know you lie (I know you lie)
I'm still in love with you (oh oh oh)

Can't take me anywhere (Cant take you anywhere)
Can't take me anywhere (wouldn't take you anyway)

Carl sings:
I'll take you anywhere you wanna go

but YOU CAN'T STAND ME NOW YOU CAN'T STAND ME NOW CAN'T STAND ME NOW
CAN'T STAND ME NOW

Well, we agree on something then afterall. I like it for just the same reasons ;).

But enough of making fun of my album preference, can some one tell what kind of guitar pete is playing here

Answer: he isn't. He's just moving his fingers up and down one.

but what kind of guitar is it?

Up the bracket has all the charm and all the energy. It is the aural representation of what they were all about in their heyday, epitomised by their name. The second is a lot more musically sophisticated i think. Theres almost a jazz feel to it at times. However, i cant help but feel the second is only as lauded as it is due to the timing of its release and the internal conflicts within the band at the time, conflicts that, although prsent during the recording of UTB, really came to public attention with the self titled. One thing both albums have in common is the high level of lyrical content, but i think all in all UTB is better purely because its how i want to remember the Libertines.

The only songs off the self-titled album that were good enough to be on UTB were What became of the Likely Lads and Can't Stand Me Now in my opinion. It wasn't that the music was completely wretched, it's just everyone could see this was nowhere near their best and a lot of songs sounded like unfinished demos or rambling pieces that were simply just ****e. There was a complete lack of ambition, compounded by the fact that a lot of it was written seperately while Pete was in rehab, jail or having a tiff with Carl.

Am I the only person who hears a fair bit of Joe Strummer in Pete Doherty's vocals?

Yes.

Actually, I don't know, but I've never heard Joe. Pete seems too sloppy... to sound like Joe. And I know Joe wasn't the easiest guy to understand when singing, I just wouldn't compare Pete Doherty to Joe Strummer.

^I wouldnt compare either, but they are both amazing!

I've been feeling nostalgic and have been giving there second album another go, and I still like it better than their debut. There's just something about that their debut doesn't have. It feels so loose, like it's on the fringe of collapse that makes it a more interesting and rewarding listen, for me anyway. It's the sound of a band in the throws of death.

i LOVE the libertines and i just love everything about them (except for pete doherty's drug problems) but seriously, everyone who loves the libertines or babyshambles just wants to see him get better, there are so many people rooting for him. i hear they are set to reunite in 2010, and i just want pete to survive till then. their music was so fun and raw, its got some punk aspect mixed with the best mix of indie and garage rock. there is no band that i root for more than the libertines. they did great with just 2 albums, so they deserve to do more. the things that carl and pete did together are reminiscent of other great music duos (not quite our generation's john and paul quite yet) but thats why they need to reunite- to have a chance to be great and we will never know they cannot just become a what-if? they cant be like the fourth nirvana album, the beatles in the 70s +,etc

The Libertines will always have a special place with me as they're the band that introduced me to music beyond the charts, I only got into them about 3 or 4 years after they split so I didn't catch the hysteria at the time. For me, Up The Bracket is one of the best albums of the 21st century, yes it's rough as hell but even as I listen to some of the other so called masterpieces of this century, as great as albums like Elephant and Is This It? are Up The Bracket is still up there with the best of them, it's just so loose, raw and poetic and there are about 7 killer songs, their second album was not quite as good as the 1st but considering the circumstances it was probably as good as it could have been and is still a very interesting, sometimes uncomfortable listen. Time For Heroes is just about my favourite song of all time.

Carl said to NME that if he records something with Pete, it'll be in 2011, because he is "busy".

Are you serious? The thing that puts me off the second album is that it sounds too cohesive, and you can feel the sheen of good production all over it. Up The Bracket was raw and what you'd want from a band post-Strokes.

And in response to The Libertines reformation, I think that when it does happen it'll probably be the final bucket over water thrown over what is now a simpering fire. Pete Doherty is now pretty much a caricature of Pete Doherty (even though his solo effort was actually pretty good) and the less said about the Dirty Pretty Things recent output the better. In my opinion, they're both irrelevant now. Pete's best off throwing out lo-ki albums every now and again whilst Carl should carry on with his films, or whatever he's doing. I've never been a massive fan of Carl anyway so whatever he does I couldn't give a sh*t.

Yes, so I know this is an ancient thread that I was directed to after creating a new thread about the band, not knowing this one existed. Sorry if this treads old ground, but I'm a big fan and thought I'd try to get discussion going on this band again.

Anyone else thrilled about the reunion? Catch them at Leeds this year? Favorite songs? Heard the Get Him To The Greek soundtrack featuring Carl Barat? My favorite songs:
Up The Bracket
Time For Heroes
Vertigo
I Get Along
Horrorshow

Definitely stoked about them getting back together and hoping they record again at some point. The GHTTG soundtrack surprisingly rocked, and I'm sure a lot of that had to do with Carl's involvement.

Seeing them play on a main stage just didn't do it for me, always seen Libertines as a small indoor venue band, certainly not on a 80,000 stage - just doesn't go with their 'friendly with the fans' legacy they had back in the day!

Interesting point. That's the first I've read of their big performances this year. I get what you're saying though. What was the set list like?