Greatest Post Punk Album

jackhammer · 06-14-2012, 06:30 PM

Post Punk is quite simply the bands that made music after 1978 who could actually play and/or conceptualise music but used the raw energy of Punk to give it focus.

Siouxsie and the Banshees debut The Scream is a brilliant example. It's not a Punk album but it's abrasive enough to be included yet it sounds nothing like the bands around the time. Gets my vote every time.

Howard the Duck · 06-14-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Well post-rock is the use of standard rock instrumentation to create more ambient, meandering, textural pieces.

Post-punk I think is less about a sound and more about an idea, so it's a broader blanket covering more dissimilar artists.

well, post-rock covers:-

Slint's Spiderland - which is more "mathy"
Talk Talk's last 2 albums - more jazzy/classical
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - lengthy prog-like pieces
Sigur Ros - eclectic and closer to "Shoegaze" or "dream-pop"

James Ihash · 06-16-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Noise Wall

I recently got into an argument with a friend who claims Closer to be the great post punk album of all time.

I vote for Unknown Pleasures

grungeandgaze · 06-21-2012, 09:06 AM

Wipers - Over the Edge by miles for me...has an amazing atmosphere and is consistent from start to finish.

Noise Wall · 06-22-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Well post-rock is the use of standard rock instrumentation to create more ambient, meandering, textural pieces.

Post-punk I think is less about a sound and more about an idea, so it's a broader blanket covering more dissimilar artists.

Not in anyway the case. The only reason it might seem like this, is because post punk influenced bands are often called post punk when they are just alt rock. Look at Joy Division, early Cocteau Twins, Early Sonic Youth, Jesus and Marry Chain, Gang of Four, and Public Image ltd. They all have a stylistic similarity not shared by bands not considered post punk. It is as defined a style as punk rock itself, and many post punk acts crossover into new wave which is pretty much post punk + synth pop. This crossover is a large reason for the confusion I think.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-22-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Noise Wall

and many post punk acts crossover into new wave which is pretty much post punk + synth pop. This crossover is a large reason for the confusion I think.

New Wave was the major labels attempt at commercialising what was left of the punk influence.

Post punk was virtually the opposite of that, I don't see there's any crossover at all.

Sneer · 06-24-2012, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Post punk bands usually have attitude, or darkness, but a more accessible musical sound than punk.

I take it you haven't listened to a This Heat album. Makes The Ramones sound like Cilla Black.

As for best album... Metal Box, Pink Flag or Jane From Occupied Europe, it depends on my mood.

Howard the Duck · 06-24-2012, 07:21 AM

Metal Box isn't that accessible, either

well, not on initial listens

"Flowers of Romance" was also pretty difficult to get into

Sneer · 06-24-2012, 07:24 AM

My point was that, generally, post-punk isn't more accessible than punk. I wasn't going to sit there listing all the albums that make punk sound tame, I'd be at it for days.

jawbreaker · 06-25-2012, 02:53 PM

I quite like Adam and the Ants's 'dirk wears white sox'.

And yes, that 'flowers of romance' is difficult, with a strong tribal dimension, just like many other albums of that time (KJ's 'fire dances', The Cure's 'Pornography', Virgin Prunes' 'a new form of beauty'...).

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Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	My point was that, generally, post-punk isn't more accessible than punk. I wasn't going to sit there listing all the albums that make punk sound tame, I'd be at it for days. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

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jawbreaker Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Paris area Posts: 65	I quite like Adam and the Ants's 'dirk wears white sox'. And yes, that 'flowers of romance' is difficult, with a strong tribal dimension, just like many other albums of that time (KJ's 'fire dances', The Cure's 'Pornography', Virgin Prunes' 'a new form of beauty'...). __________________ "the secret of a long life is to try not to shorten it". My name is nobody, Sergio Leone, 1973