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ZRFTS 05-12-2015 01:28 AM

Should I bother with Oasis
 
I just listened to their debut album and I'm not a fan of the dense and confused sound they included on there; in fact if I were a part of "The Britpop Wars" I would of voted for Blur.

However they did do Wonderwall and they mellowed out the sound in the second album so the ultimate question is this, should I bother with Oasis?

Mr. Sir 05-12-2015 01:29 AM

I don't know. Should you?

Frownland 05-12-2015 01:30 AM

There are too many great artists to be bothering with crap like Oasis.

grindy 05-12-2015 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZRFTS (Post 1588572)
I just listened to their debut album and I'm not a fan of the dense and confused sound they included on there; in fact if I were a part of "The Britpop Wars" I would of voted for Blur.

However they did do Wonderwall and they mellowed out the sound in the second album so the ultimate question is this, should I bother with Oasis?

Oh, come on! I'm sure you know better than that.

Guybrush 05-12-2015 04:53 AM

Oasis is not my cuppa, but if I were gonna check them out, I would definitely go for What's The Story (Morning Glory). It's the album which made them huge, so if you're studying brit-pop, that should be one of the first albums on the curriculum.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-12-2015 04:58 AM

Just listen to the first 2 album and the B sides compilation they put out around the time those 2 came out.
And their appearance at Glastonbury 1995 if you want to be completest.

Psy-Fi 05-12-2015 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1588574)
There are too many great artists to be bothering with crap like Oasis.

:beer:

Guybrush 05-12-2015 05:32 AM

To me, it seems just a bit too simple to dismiss one of the most famous and successful bands of the 90s as "crap". It's an opinion, certainly, but not a particularly weighty one.

Goofle 05-12-2015 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1588592)
Just listen to the first 2 album and the B sides compilation they put out around the time those 2 came out.
And their appearance at Glastonbury 1995 if you want to be completest.

Pretty much.

I'm a huge fan personally, so I would advise it. I don't think they are boring at all. Depends if you enjoy simplistic but fun rock and roll or not.

Plankton 05-12-2015 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1588580)
Oh, come on! I'm sure you know better than that.

Dammit!

Make sure you remember where you're at while Oasis is getting high, cuz he's gonna ask you like... 50-something times.

Frownland 05-12-2015 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1588606)
To me, it seems just a bit too simple to dismiss one of the most famous and successful bands of the 90s as "crap". It's an opinion, certainly, but not a particularly weighty one.

Maybe I should have said uninteresting and overrated instead.

Janszoon 05-12-2015 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1588606)
To me, it seems just a bit too simple to dismiss one of the most famous and successful bands of the 90s as "crap". It's an opinion, certainly, but not a particularly weighty one.

Does this mean The Backstreet Boys deserve more serious consideration?

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-12-2015 11:47 AM

If a band as awful as Pearl Jam can be deemed an important band from that time I see no reason why Oasis shouldn't either.

Black Francis 05-12-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZRFTS (Post 1588572)
I just listened to their debut album and I'm not a fan of the dense and confused sound they included on there; in fact if I were a part of "The Britpop Wars" I would of voted for Blur.

However they did do Wonderwall and they mellowed out the sound in the second album so the ultimate question is this, should I bother with Oasis?

Ive checked out from Oasis awhile ago but they're not a bad band im sure you'll find a couple of decent tunes from them worthy of your time.

Try She's electric i personally think it's a better song than Wonderwall.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-12-2015 05:15 PM



Remember this like it was yesterday. Rushed out and bought it the following Monday.
Still think it's their best song.

William_the_Bloody 05-12-2015 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZRFTS (Post 1588572)
I just listened to their debut album and I'm not a fan of the dense and confused sound they included on there; in fact if I were a part of "The Britpop Wars" I would of voted for Blur.

However they did do Wonderwall and they mellowed out the sound in the second album so the ultimate question is this, should I bother with Oasis?

If you don't like their first album than the answer is no, as it is often cited as their best.

Plus Noel Gallagher is the songwriting talent of the group, if you don't like his "dense" guitar sound you won't like Oasis.

Black Francis 05-13-2015 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1588820)


Remember this like it was yesterday. Rushed out and bought it the following Monday.
Still think it's their best song.

Good one, i forgot all about this song.

i remember Oasis being hyped up as the next Beatles, people saw that potential in them but then i suddenly started hearing Noel & Liam were arrogant assh*les and people slandering Oasis.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-13-2015 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1588915)
i suddenly started hearing Noel & Liam were arrogant assh*les and people slandering Oasis.

That was their appeal.
You want a nice guy go listen to Dave Grohl.

Black Francis 05-13-2015 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1588917)
That was their appeal.
You want a nice guy go listen to Dave Grohl.

No thank you, i prefer Dave behind a drumset.

that "appeal" as you call it ended overshadowing their talent.

Guybrush 05-13-2015 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1588677)
Does this mean The Backstreet Boys deserve more serious consideration?

I don't like boybands and consider them all to be, more or less, different flavours of shit. But if I see a thread on a boyband, I don't really see the point of swooping in and telling people it's crap. I mean, the people interested in discussing them obviously have different interests to me, so how relevant is my "they're crap"-opinion to them? And what will me telling them it's crap add to the forums, other than possibly telling them that people like me are judging their taste thinking it stinks and are prepared to casually shame them for it?

That doesn't mean a "they're crap" post has no value, but it needs more substance than just that simple statement.

I also think it should be possible to discuss all music on musicbanter without feeling like you're under attack, so I've no wish to alienate people who like music I don't like.

And depending on what you're looking for, there can be lots of things worth serious consideration about The Backstreet Boys. Talented people have written songs for them, produced them, marketed them - and they were a success.

edit :

My first post earlier in this thread is more or less my spin on the one Frownland did.

Chula Vista 05-13-2015 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1588867)
Noel Gallagher is the songwriting talent of the group, if you don't like his "dense" guitar sound you won't like Oasis.

That's exactly what I really like about Oasis. Plus I really like the timbre of Liam's voice. Noel's is really good too.

*makes mental note to play Oasis next time I'm in plug with Frowny*

Plankton 05-13-2015 09:47 AM

*makes mental note to not go in plug when Chula and Frown are in it at the same time*

Goofle 05-13-2015 09:54 AM

Feel welcome to play them whenever I'm in there.

Plankton 05-13-2015 10:02 AM

Yeah, I guess that was kind of mean.

But still... I can't stand his whiny voice. It sounds like Jim Carey in Dumb and Dumber doing the most annoying sound in the world.

Frownland 05-13-2015 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1589002)
That's exactly what I really like about Oasis. Plus I really like the timbre of Liam's voice. Noel's is really good too.

*makes mental note to play Oasis next time I'm in plug with Frowny*

I don't hate the group, I just think they're incredibly boring.

BloodFoxTK 05-13-2015 11:29 AM

i would say no.

i've never liked Oasis, nor have i even understood the appeal.

Janszoon 05-13-2015 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1588947)
I don't like boybands and consider them all to be, more or less, different flavours of shit. But if I see a thread on a boyband, I don't really see the point of swooping in and telling people it's crap. I mean, the people interested in discussing them obviously have different interests to me, so how relevant is my "they're crap"-opinion to them? And what will me telling them it's crap add to the forums, other than possibly telling them that people like me are judging their taste thinking it stinks and are prepared to casually shame them for it?

That doesn't mean a "they're crap" post has no value, but it needs more substance than just that simple statement.

I also think it should be possible to discuss all music on musicbanter without feeling like you're under attack, so I've no wish to alienate people who like music I don't like.

And depending on what you're looking for, there can be lots of things worth serious consideration about The Backstreet Boys. Talented people have written songs for them, produced them, marketed them - and they were a success.

edit :

My first post earlier in this thread is more or less my spin on the one Frownland did.

But this isn't an Oasis fan thread, it's a thread specifically asking if they're worth bothering with or not.

Goofle 05-13-2015 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodFoxTK (Post 1589022)
i would say no.

i've never liked Oasis, nor have i even understood the appeal.

You don't understand the appeal of simple rock and roll which builds to an anthemic chorus?

Black Francis 05-13-2015 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1588947)
I also think it should be possible to discuss all music on musicbanter without feeling like you're under attack, so I've no wish to alienate people who like music I don't like.

^ This is especially important when dealing with New members who just want to belong to this community.

i remember being new here and making a Nirvana thread and members here alienating me and making me feel foolish for liking them.

That caused me to have a horrible 1st impression of the site.
If it wasn't for members like Pedestrian and Janzoon who were courteous and welcoming i probably wouldn't be here

Guybrush 05-13-2015 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1589024)
But this isn't an Oasis fan thread, it's a thread specifically asking if they're worth bothering with or not.

It still does little to improve on the quality of our dear forums.

BloodFoxTK 05-13-2015 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1589028)
You don't understand the appeal of simple rock and roll which builds to an anthemic chorus?

anthemic?

simple rock is fine, but i don't understand the appeal of Oasis specifically. i don't like their material at all.

Guybrush 05-14-2015 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodFoxTK (Post 1589085)
anthemic?

simple rock is fine, but i don't understand the appeal of Oasis specifically. i don't like their material at all.

Unless the artist has some obviously unique quality, I think the specific appeal is something you discover eventually after listening to them for a while. I think most who got into Oasis simply did it on the strength of their singles which were, as you say, fine simple rock.

William_the_Bloody 05-14-2015 08:32 AM

I've always been a closet Oasis fan, one of my biggest regrets of the 90's is that I didn't bother to see them live because I was to busy following underground acts, like John Spencer, Massive Attack ect.

I can understand if people don't like them because they're bland corporate rock, but Noel Gallagher's songwriting talent shouldn't be underestimated, his recent solo releases have been topping the UK charts for a reason.

...and quite frankly I miss pop stars who could write their own music, you wouldn't hear a song like the one posted below on the top 40 today.

...downloading killed the rock star.


Goofle 05-14-2015 09:58 AM

His latest album is actually pretty good.

Chula Vista 05-14-2015 10:03 AM

Loved the televised show they did where Liam bailed at the last minute and Noel had to sing all night while Liam sat up in the balcony watching.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-14-2015 11:18 AM

I find it kind of ironic people hate the Gallagher brothers for their 'arrogance'. All they do is talk up their own band and are outspoken about what they think of others, if I was in a band I'd be exactly the same way. Most people who meet them say that they're nice guys, especially Noel.

Compare that to Blur where it's well known that Damon Albarn treats the people around him like shit and it was him that initiated the whole Blur vs Oasis thing with NME editor Steve Sutherland, and when it backfired and Morning Glory outsold The Great Escape by a huge amount anybody who bought up the subjects in interviews he would either refuse to talk about it or walk out.

That's what you call a real prick.

Goofle 05-14-2015 02:05 PM

Not to forget their Nardwuar interview.

William_the_Bloody 05-14-2015 04:27 PM

Lol, that is a classic interview, I worked with Nardwuar on one of his radio shows for a bit back in the early mid 90's.

Super nice guy, but back then he had a reputation for shifty interviews, I remember when Skid Row beat him up and stole his took at an old club in gastown, so Blur was probably just on edge with all the rumours.



Anyhow back to Oasis, although I was generally opposed to a lot of corporate rock back in the day, now that I'm older I see how important it is to have popular mainstream rock acts just to keep the genre vibrant. Underground scenes tend to fade away without some measure of commercial success.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-14-2015 04:32 PM

True story

When Mogwai just started out they used to sell 'Blur Are Shite' T shirts through the classified ads in Melody Maker.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...nH/blurite.jpg

The Batlord 05-14-2015 05:40 PM

I find it hilarious that so many people hold Oasis to such a high standard when it comes to originality. If these people are so bothered by a band they think is derivative, then shouldn't they also hate 99% of all the punk bands in existence? Or the vast majority of bands in any other sub-genre? At least Oasis have a sound of their own that you can't really mistake for anyone else. I could give a **** how original they are. All I know is that they are a fantastic power pop band who I'd be thrilled to listen to inbetween Big Star and Cheap Trick.


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