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roscoe_the_first 05-15-2015 02:42 AM

Hello thanks for allowing me to be here
 
Joined this forum mainly because I am writing a book on the Beatles. Yes another one. It takes 'Many years from now' by Barry Miles a stage further. The inspiration came from a thing which some people may know about which started when previously unseen Beatles material began appearing on youtube in 2008. Beatles roadie and Apple CEO Neil Aspinall died in 2008.

I have already written an article for a magazine but my book goes further.

RoxyRollah 05-15-2015 02:46 AM

But you love Downton Abbey tho...

roscoe_the_first 05-15-2015 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1589557)
But you love Downton Abbey tho...

Yes

Sorry about that. Me and 140 million others.

Guybrush 05-15-2015 02:55 AM

Cool Roscoe :)

Who doesn't like The Beatles? Well, some here but I'm not one of them. Do you have some favorite Beatles songs?

RoxyRollah 05-15-2015 02:59 AM

I hate the beatles. I am looking into tattoo removal because I hate John Lennon so much.
;).


(I am sorry I couldn't help myself.)

Welcome Downton Abbey person.

Overcast 05-15-2015 09:17 AM

Welcome to MB.

roscoe_the_first 05-15-2015 10:31 PM

Thanks for the welcome and remember:

IT WAS A FAKE MOUSTACHE. ;)

Moss 05-15-2015 11:03 PM

You can never have enough books about the Beatles in my opinion. Welcome.

Chula Vista 05-15-2015 11:15 PM

Welcome aboard. Let's dual some Beatles trivia.

roscoe_the_first 05-15-2015 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1589984)
Welcome aboard. Let's dual some Beatles trivia.

Thanks

Bit of Trivia
DOCTOR ROBERT (Revolver )
= Robert Frazer known as Groovy Bob - Once famously handcuffed to Mick Jagger.

Said to have been the first person actually diagnosed in Britain to have died of AIDS.

roscoe_the_first 05-16-2015 12:17 AM

More on Groovy Bob (Doctor Robert)

There is a recently found Telegram from Kenneth Anger to Robert Frazer. Kenneth Anger made the film 'Lucifer Rising' which was originally to star wife of Roman Polanski Sharon Tate - murdered by the Charles Manson "Family". It did star Bobby Beausoliel, one of Manson's disciples. Beausoliel is currently serving a life sentence for the murder of music teacher and associate Gary Hinman on July 27, 1969.

In the Telegram from Anger to Frazer it speaks of a boat on the River Nile called Kashmir - One should remember a Led Zeppelin track called Kashmir.

All in my book.

Moss 05-16-2015 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by roscoe_the_first (Post 1589994)
More on Groovy Bob (Doctor Robert)

There is a recently found Telegram from Kenneth Anger to Robert Frazer. Kenneth Anger made the film 'Lucifer Rising' which was originally to star wife of Roman Polanski Sharon Tate - murdered by the Charles Manson "Family". It did star Bobby Beausoliel, one of Manson's disciples. Beausoliel is currently serving a life sentence for the murder of music teacher and associate Gary Hinman on July 27, 1969.

In the Telegram from Anger to Frazer it speaks of a boat on the River Nile called Kashmir - One should remember a Led Zeppelin track called Kashmir.

All in my book.

Wow, you are digging deep. Although not sure what that Kashmir reference has to do with the Beatles. Or even Led Zeppelin. I guess I'm not getting what the significance is of a semi obscure director writing to Dr. Robert about a boat called Kashmir. I mean, I think Kashmir was written when Zep visited the area in Asia known as Kashmir. Not trying to be a dick, just trying to understand how this is worked into your Beatles book.

roscoe_the_first 05-16-2015 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1589999)
Wow, you are digging deep. Although not sure what that Kashmir reference has to do with the Beatles. Or even Led Zeppelin. I guess I'm not getting what the significance is of a semi obscure director writing to Dr. Robert about a boat called Kashmir. I mean, I think Kashmir was written when Zep visited the area in Asia known as Kashmir. Not trying to be a dick, just trying to understand how this is worked into your Beatles book.

Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin bought Aleister Crowley's former house on the side of Loch Ness. Aleister Crowley is second from the top left on the Sergeant Pepper album cover. The boat Kashmir is where certain rituals were performed the clue is 'Lucifer Rising'. Now listen to the link on my signature - It's Sergeant Pepper's Lonely (track before Day in the Life) sung backwards. The cut-out for the 'Fake Moustache' is in the pull-out sheet that came with the Sergeant Pepper vinyl album.(My avatar)

PS we are trying to find out who iamaphoney is, some believe that it's McCartney himself.

Moss 05-16-2015 12:05 PM

Nope...nope...still not getting it. Sorry, I don't pretend to be all that bright. I know all about Jimmy Page and his fascination with Aleister. I get that. Maybe the song Kashmir is named after the boat and not the area although I'm thinking Plant wrote those lyrics. Other than Crowley being on the cover of Sgt. Peppers I'm still not following.

Seems a little like me saying: "Aldous Huxley wrote the Doors of perception and he is on the cover of sgt. peppers. The doors are named after that book. Jim Morrison died in Paris. Now listen to my fake moustache song, get it now?"

Chula Vista 05-16-2015 12:11 PM

I'm with you Moss.

Guybrush 05-16-2015 12:57 PM

^Yeah, I'm sorry Roscoe, but what you wrote sounds more like conspiracy theory flavoured fantasy or speculation than fact. Those connections are pretty tenuous and tenuous connections you can basically find wherever.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Moss 05-16-2015 02:32 PM

I'm not actually sure what you are even claiming at this point, maybe we start with that.

roscoe_the_first 05-16-2015 09:44 PM

I'm at a disadvantage at the moment because I cannot post you a link.

But Apple Star: It was a fake moustache is the track Sergeant Pepper's Lonely (last but one track before Day in the Life) played backwards. This complies with Crowley's instructions in his Thelema Texts. But more than that Apple Star - Apple Star is an allusion to Crowley's A∴A∴ Secret Society. The Sergeant Pepper album depicts the Beatles standing over a grave of a left handed base guitar made with hyacinths (look up the Greek mythology for Hyacinths). Derek Taylor (the Beatles PR man) let slip that the whole scene was a grave and a funeral and Barry Miles alludes to this in 'Many years from now'. With a Wax model of SONNY Liston on the left and DIANA Dors on the right. (Diana is the Moon Goddess). I dedicate a whole section of my book to the Sergeant Pepper album.

The false moustache appears as a cut-out in the sheet that comes with the vinyl album. (My Avatar) McCartney did in fact cut his lip when larking about on a Moped with Tara Brown (heir to the Guinness fortune) who later "Blew his mind out in a car" crash. His father sat in the House of Lords.

iamaphoney is the maker of the track in my signature. We don't know who he/she or it is. There are some who think the iamaphoney youtube sequence is being driven by McCartney himself.

Pet_Sounds 05-16-2015 09:46 PM

So wait… you believe in the PID theory?

roscoe_the_first 05-16-2015 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1590371)
So wait… you believe in the PID theory?

No but I do believe he was BORN AGAIN. And to be born again you first have to die. A Ritual.
Click on the second link below.

Pet_Sounds 05-16-2015 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by roscoe_the_first (Post 1590387)
No but I do believe he was BORN AGAIN. And to be born again you first have to die. A Ritual.

Ah. I gotcha. So you believe Jim Morrison killed him, then when Jim died, Paul was resurrected?

roscoe_the_first 05-16-2015 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1590392)
Ah. I gotcha. So you believe Jim Morrison killed him, then when Jim died, Paul was resurrected?

Please don't form an opinion when you are possession of about one hundredth of the information required. You make yourself look a fool.

DwnWthVwls 05-16-2015 10:32 PM

You're like the 3rd roscoe I know, but welcome.

roscoe_the_first 05-16-2015 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1590412)
You're like the 3rd roscoe I know, but welcome.

I've been known as Roscoe on the web from before Social Networking started. Being before me will take some beating. I was a Network Engineer now retired having creamed it. Contrary to Al Gore I really did build the Internet (me and several thousand others)


Thanks for the welcome.

roscoe_the_first 05-16-2015 10:50 PM

Extract from my book

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Anonymous said...”The police and authorities knew already in the early 60's that drugs would be a major problem in the near future. They were preparing for it, but it went wrong somewhere, they weren't able to stem the tide……….

I used to model for Harley Street specialists training med-students at this time, starting in '58 as a 12 year-old. The police, led by top-cops Joe Simpson and Shirley Becke, used to supply Profs Emanuel Miller and Richard Asher with the drugs they wanted to study, and used me as a guinea-pig! There would be several off-duty coppers present to see the result and work out how to deal with an acid-head.”

'Big' Joe Simpson, head of the Metropolitan Police, suddenly died on the 20 March 1968. Shirley Becke nee Jennings was the first woman to become a Police Commander. Both have exemplary careers. The child sex Metropolitan Police cover-up is currently being investigated from 1970 onwards. We are to assume nothing occurred before this.

So the father of Paul’s girlfriend Dr Richard Asher was experimenting with ACID on patients under the watchful eye of the Metropolitan Police. It should be said that in 1963 LSD was not illegal in either the US or the UK.1

Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (ACID) was first patented in 1947, it is an hallucinogenic drug that is derived originally from ergot, a fungus found growing wild on rye and other grasses. It was first discovered in 1938 by a research chemist, Albert Hofmann, while working to produce new medicines.

George Harrison recalls that John, Cynthia (John’s first wife) George and Pattie (George’s wife he met whilst filming Hard Day’s Night) had been at a dinner party of Pattie’s dentist. He put LSD into their coffee and they all described their experience as mind expanding as they had left the dentist’s home and went to the Ad Lib Club. Paul did not use LSD (officially) at this point but was encouraged to do so by the others. George Harrison stated later that he was not aware that Paul had ever taken LSD until he admitted it to a journalist. John had told Paul that it was like Alice Adventures through the Looking Glass a book that they both were fond of.
Paul's girlfriend Jane Asher had been a child actress who had played Alice in 'Through the Looking Glass'. He wrote 'I'm Looking through you' during his break up with her. In the Lewis Carroll (featured on the Sergeant Pepper Album) classic everything should be viewed backwards. It also discusses the moral dilemmas of the Walrus and the Carpenter. Lewis Carroll was a member of the Society for Psychical Research

Only the Beatles could make a song called I am the Walrus and make it a hit.

Moss 05-17-2015 12:03 AM

Holy ****, you are all over the place and I have no idea what the hell is going on. Bob Dylan wrote a song called "rainy day woman #12 and #35". The Beatles first tried pot with Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan loved Woody Guthrie. John wrote a song called Norwegian Wood. I sport Wood when I hear that song. WTF?

roscoe_the_first 05-17-2015 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1590436)
Holy ****, you are all over the place and I have no idea what the hell is going on. Bob Dylan wrote a song called "rainy day woman #12 and #35". The Beatles first tried pot with Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan loved Woody Guthrie. John wrote a song called Norwegian Wood. I sport Wood when I hear that song. WTF?

Both John and Paul engaged in word play. I take it you've also heard of Avant Garde?

You probably haven't heard of Ginsberg and Burroughs and the LES BEAT movement. McCartney took off through France after the American tour in his Aston Martin. He met Mal Evans in Bordeaux. Evans was his bodyguard who had worked on the door at the Cavern Club in Liverpool. Evans and McCartney conceived the concept of the Sergeant Pepper album together.

Mal Evans was on the phone in 1976 in Los Angeles saying that he has the manuscript of his biography and whatever happens to him make sure it is published. He was shot dead four hours later by the same policeman who had stopped further investigation into a second shooter in the Bobby Kennedy assassination.

Did you watch the youtube link below?

Moss 05-17-2015 12:19 AM

I got about 3 minutes in. Seems like the same old Paul is dead ****e I have heard a million times. Kind of funny and many coincidences and things but overall, not something to take seriously. Avant Garde - Yes, new or experimental ideas. Beatles were all about that. Now I'm starting to think you are just pulling my leg. Nice work, I was starting to think you were a bit out there. Wait, are you Charles Manson?

roscoe_the_first 05-17-2015 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1590439)
I got about 3 minutes in. Seems like the same old Paul is dead ****e

Then you know nothing. An example of wilfull ignorance. It isn't about Paul is dead

Look, if you're not interested please stop responding. You are however giving me an opportunity to respond and advertize.

Moss 05-17-2015 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by roscoe_the_first (Post 1590441)
then you know nothing.

John Snow

roscoe_the_first 05-17-2015 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1590442)
John Snow

It's spelled Jon

Moss 05-17-2015 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by roscoe_the_first (Post 1590443)
It's spelled Jon

Oh yeah. Jon Snow. So no relation to John Lennon thank goodness.

roscoe_the_first 05-17-2015 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1590444)
Oh yeah. Jon Snow. So no relation to John Lennon thank goodness.

"Mind Games" by John Lennon

Quote:


We're playing those mind games together
Pushing the barriers planting seeds
Playing the mind guerrilla
Chanting the Mantra peace on earth
We all been playing those mind games forever
Some kinda druid dudes lifting the veil
Doing the mind guerrilla
Some call it magic the search for the grail

Love is the answer and you know that for sure
Love is a flower you got to let it grow

So keep on playing those mind games together
Faith in the future out of the now
You just can't beat on those mind guerrillas
Absolute elsewhere in the stones of your mind
Yeah we're playing those mind games together
Projecting our images in space and in time

Yes is the answer and you know that for sure
Yes is surrender you got to let it go

So keep on playing those mind games together
Doing the ritual dance in the sun
Millions of mind guerrillas
Putting their soul power to the karmic wheel
Keep on playing those mind games together
Raising the spirit of peace and love
(I want you to make love, not war
I know you've heard it before)

roscoe_the_first 05-17-2015 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1590444)
Oh yeah. Jon Snow. So no relation to John Lennon thank goodness.

How do you sleep by John Lennon

So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise
You better see right through that mother's eyes
Those freaks was right when they said you was dead
The one mistake you made was in your head

Ah, how do you sleep
Ah, how do you sleep at night

You live with straights who tell you, you was king
Jump when your momma tell you anything
The only thing you done was yesterday
And since you're gone you're just another day

Ah, how do you sleep
Ah, how do you sleep at night

Ah, how do you sleep
Ah, how do you sleep at night

A pretty face may last a year or two
But pretty soon they'll see what you can do
The sound you make is muzak to my ears
You must have learned something in all those years


The words of John Lennon
Shot dead outside the Hotel where they had made Rosemary's Baby. A movie about the Anti-Christ.
Made by Roman Polanski the husband of ritually murdered Sharon Tate. Tate was murdered at Doris Day's flat. Doris Day's son was Terry Melcher whom Manson had a grudge against. Terry Melcher was on the board of directors of Apple.

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In March 1977, film director Roman Polanski was arrested and charged in Los Angeles with five offenses against Samantha Gailey, a 13-year-old girl[1] – rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor.[2] At his arraignment Polanski pleaded not guilty to all charges,[3] but later accepted a plea bargain whose terms included dismissal of the five initial charges[4] in exchange for a guilty plea to the lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse.[4][5]

Polanski underwent a court-ordered psychiatric evaluation,[6] and a report was submitted to the court recommending probation.[7] However, upon learning that he was likely to face imprisonment and deportation,[5][8] Polanski fled to France in February 1978, hours before he was to be formally sentenced.[9] Since then Polanski has mostly lived in France and has avoided visiting countries likely to extradite him to the United States.
- wikipedia

Moss 05-17-2015 12:54 AM

That is one of Johns greatest songs, much to Paul's chagrin. And don't get me wrong, I would totally read your book.

roscoe_the_first 05-17-2015 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1590450)
That is one of Johns greatest songs, much to Paul's chagrin. And don't get me wrong, I would totally read your book.

Well it all gets clearer when you realise that Paul McCartney stayed at 53 Whimpole St with his girlfriend Jane Asher and her Father and Mother and two siblings. Dr Richard Asher wrote several articles for the medical journal The Lancet on Hypnotism. Jane's mother had tutored George Martin. As we've seen Dr Asher experimented on patients with LSD. Dr Asher also tutored Oliver Sacks the author of Musicophilia: Tales of Music and the Brain. In this book there is a chapter entitled Come Together. Dr Asher hung himself in 1967.

53 Whimpole St is 100 yards from Whimpole Mews where Dr Stephen Ward practiced and supplied the prostitutes Christine Keeler and Mandy Rice Davies to clients which brought down the British Government.

Keeler and Rice-Davies appear on the Free as a Bird video. Ringo is reported to have slept with Keeler on his stag night before he married Maureen.

You're still not a hundredth the way through this story yet. These are just teasers.

Chula Vista 05-17-2015 07:45 AM

Never mind. I wouldn't stand a chance dueling Beatles trivia with you!

Zeppelin on the other hand.....

roscoe_the_first 05-17-2015 09:45 PM

OK but remember this. The reason we seem to have a lot of what has become to be known as Conspiracy Theories is because investigative journalism has been killed off.

This isn't a theory though.

Neapolitan 05-17-2015 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1589979)
You can never have enough books about the Beatles in my opinion. Welcome.

There are so many books I passed up about The Beatles. I wouldn't know where to put them all if I bought them.
I have Beatles Gear, that's an essential coffee table book.

Guybrush 05-18-2015 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by roscoe_the_first (Post 1590652)
OK but remember this. The reason we seem to have a lot of what has become to be known as Conspiracy Theories is because investigative journalism has been killed off.

This isn't a theory though.

Just out of curiosity, do you think there's any truth to conspiracy theories / ideas like these?
  • The illuminati controls the world
  • The US government staged the 9/11 attacks
  • Crop circles are made by visiting aliens
  • The moon landing was fake
  • Vapor trails from airplanes are actually chemicals that the government are purposely spraying on people
  • The elite of mankind are actually reptilian overlords


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