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This is why the college *******s need to start reaching out. There are so many downtrodden people who'd be open to socialism if they just knew what the **** it was. But ICP's sheer vehemence about their social (not political) stance is clearly a gateway for them to socialism and many of their fans would be likewise open to it if the gatekeepers to socialism would get the **** off their high horses and just tried to connect with them in an honest way. Back before WW2 during the Great Depression socialism was a real force in American politics so the poor are very much about it even if they don't know it or reject it. They just need it put to them in a way that doesn't feel like condescending intellectual elites treating them like children. The only thing standing in the way is not just that they feel a lack of respect but that they are legitimately being disrespected and they're not so dumb that they can't sense it.
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And there is this idea that socialism isn't economically viable. That's most of what I hear from people that argue against it.
But yeah, I have friends that spread the anti socialism and anti Marxist rhetoric with out a true understanding of either then turn around and say something extremely Marxist.
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But to people who are actually trying to figure out what your policies are you have to put in some extra legwork to explain the added government involvement. Otherwise it's just Bernie Bros who're masturbating at the thought of sticking it to Republicans and corporations.
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This is your ****ing problem, moron. Who the **** do you think you're trying to appeal to?
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Dude, I know full well that the reason that Soviet and Chinese socialism failed was because they didn't have a proletariat, only peasants with no means of production to seize, so they had to enact a stop gap measure to build up their industrial sector to the point that they'd have a proletariat to finish the revolution but clearly by the time that might have happened they had a dictatorship that now had no interest in giving power to them.
But in already industrialized nations all you have to do to stave off revolution is to create unions and give them a minimum wage and boom they're well off enough to not care about seizing anything. In late stage capitalism the current class structure is the best you're going to get. Deal with it and stop wishing for the perfect Marx situation. It's not happening.
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Nah, see... I was the first motherf*cker to make fun of homeboy Anteater's hair, told him it was lost in the '80s. But you see, there are very f*cking good vibes outta that era. Even to this day. All relevant. You ever heard Wild Nothing? That band is the soundtrack to Anteater's hair. Old, but new. Sexy the whole time. You gotta get your f*cking facts straight.
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