Member Picture Gallery - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > Introductions
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-10-2018, 11:59 AM   #37071 (permalink)
GD
???pp? ??snW
 
GD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: NO
Posts: 686
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by windsock View Post
So this is the second socialism thread then?
The actual socialism thread is a Batman thread now
__________________
lasty|rate-y music-y
GD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 12:42 PM   #37072 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,548
Default

Just because it's gained some popularity doesn't mean that it's stopped being a bogeyman.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 09:44 AM   #37073 (permalink)
Groupie
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: NE and Mid Atlantic US & A
Posts: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
nothing wrong with "sticking it to corporations" would be a winners slogan for dems

and it's the essence of leftism to challenge authoritarian institutions
Except for the fact that the Dems of today ARE the establishment and the corporations. If you look at the majority of News outlets (minus Fox) they all pull for Hillary, or Bernie or whomever is on the Left most typically.

As a disclaimer I must say (sad I need to explain) that criticism of Dems does not equal endorsement of Reps or anyone else.
Rocco_81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 09:46 AM   #37074 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocco_81 View Post
Except for the fact that the Dems of today ARE the establishment and the corporations. If you look at the majority of News outlets (minus Fox) they all pull for Hillary, or Bernie or whomever is on the Left most typically.

As a disclaimer I must say (sad I need to explain) that criticism of Dems does not equal endorsement of Reps or anyone else.
More like the Dems would be the establishment if they're weren't so willing to let the Republicans be the establishment.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 09:47 AM   #37075 (permalink)
Groupie
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: NE and Mid Atlantic US & A
Posts: 8
Default

It also needs to be said that "Liberal" in the classic use of the word, meaning Classically Liberal as the political Philosophers of old used the term - would see it a must to question anyone in charge. They would also say it was necessary to actually listen and understand the other side and not just buy into dogma.

So to be clear in my statement - Liberal now days ties in with Democrat or further down the line Socialists. However it was not intended to be that way. A true Liberal considers all points from all sides before making a judgement. The modern Liberal is merely a Leftist who has his checklist and is ready to challenge based off of that prefabbed checklist much in the same way a die hard Republican has his checklist and won't waiver from it either.
Rocco_81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 09:48 AM   #37076 (permalink)
Exo
All day jazz and biscuits
 
Exo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,359
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anteater View Post
Normally my hair is spikier
This explains so much.
__________________
LastFM

SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE
Exo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 09:51 AM   #37077 (permalink)
Groupie
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: NE and Mid Atlantic US & A
Posts: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 66Sexy View Post
More like the Dems would be the establishment if they're weren't so willing to let the Republicans be the establishment.
The Repbublicans are in "power" as far as seats in politics at the moment. But when we talk about establishment and "power" as far as public opinion and our entertainment, how many news sources are for Republicans? Fox? Maybe a few Christian stations? And remember its not that I endorse them, but I don't think they are any worse than CNN or their other foes.

From HBO, to CNN to CSNBC, to pretty much most mainstream channels, you cannot watch for 5 minutes w.out some anti Republican message or if its a comedy station, a completely crass image or joke played at Trumps expense.

Music, entertainment, news - is largely left leaning and that's pretty much a known thing.
Rocco_81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 09:52 AM   #37078 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exo View Post
This explains so much.
Yes, thank you, I forgot to comment on this. I can believe that he's still living in a world where Powerman 5000 is cool.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 09:55 AM   #37079 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,548
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocco_81 View Post
So to be clear in my statement - Liberal now days ties in with Democrat or further down the line Socialists. However it was not intended to be that way. A true Liberal considers all points from all sides before making a judgement. The modern Liberal is merely a Leftist who has his checklist and is ready to challenge based off of that prefabbed checklist much in the same way a die hard Republican has his checklist and won't waiver from it either.
Actually modern Democrats aren't even Democrats because of LBJ if you're that bent on accuracy.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 01:56 PM   #37080 (permalink)
Softest Bullet Ever Shot
 
windsock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: the Outer Rim
Posts: 1,521
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
Bernie is not the establishment
You can't dispute he's a left-wing politician, and 90% of publications either pushed for him or Hillary, who was also left-wing. This would make them, the establishment, heavily left-leaning.
__________________
RYM
Last.fm


Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I don't want to rec you anything, I want you to stop posting actually
windsock is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.