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Unitedbyrock 12-09-2005 05:55 PM

Stevie Ray Vaughan
 
Any fans of the late great man here?

What a guitarist! My favourite album is 'couldn't satnd the weather' and my favourite song is 'pride and joy'

He just had a great feel to his playing!

Yanqui_UXO 12-09-2005 07:04 PM

he's a great guitar player but wasn't very innovative or anything.

Zezima 12-09-2005 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanqui_UXO
he's a great guitar player but wasn't very innovative or anything.

Yea,:yeah: i would have to agree with that.

DavidK998 12-22-2005 06:25 PM

Go Vaughan! Wooooooo! Woooooo! Wooooooo! Woooooooo!

DavidK998 12-22-2005 06:27 PM

Sorry, I'm just a really big fan and I'm glad that people other than me are still listening to him.

boskie 12-23-2005 09:12 AM

One Of The Greats @ Texas Flood

fidelityfiend 12-29-2005 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanqui_UXO
he's a great guitar player but wasn't very innovative or anything.

When you master a craft as he did you don't have to be innovative. SRV is one of the top ten guitarists ever bar none. Not just blues guitar - he was a giant - all the greats (Clapton, Page, Beck (Jeff Beck), Blackmore, B.B. King etc etc have all stated that he was one of the best ever.

IMHO innovative guitarists are few and far between. The dude from RATM was probably the most recent groundbreaker - Eddie VH before that. $0.02

Wild7Dustr 12-29-2005 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unitedbyrock
Any fans of the late great man here?

What a guitarist! My favourite album is 'couldn't satnd the weather' and my favourite song is 'pride and joy'

He just had a great feel to his playing!

Hell yeah, he's one of my favorites for sure!!!He had a great tone and feel to his playing.................He really doesn't get enough credit for his music, ya know?I mean, compared to many other guitarists, he doesn't get as much credit for his talent/greatness as others like Jimi Hendrix, etc...

I have a live album of his and think that it is truly great!!!:) Some of the tones on his performances on that album are just incredible...
...He made his live performances sound more interesting and better, I.M.O. on that album which is called "Live Alive"!!!"Live Alive" is highly recommended to all true Stevie Ray Vaughan fans...
...or any experienced guitarists, for that matter!!!Talk to yall later!!!:)

hookers with machineguns 01-20-2006 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidK998
Go Vaughan! Wooooooo! Woooooo! Wooooooo! Woooooooo!

I second that. SRV OWNS this forum. Texas Flood, The Sky is Crying, Pride and Joy- THE cuts.

Laces Out Dan! 01-20-2006 11:19 PM

Stevie Ray Blah.....hes ok...kinda boring

jazzfromhell 01-20-2006 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by _LesPaul43_
Stevie Ray Blah.....hes ok...kinda boring


I agree, he's a technically great guitarist but I don't really like the style of his music very much. Certainly not on the level of Hendrix, if you ask me, I never get any feeling from SRV's music.

Laces Out Dan! 01-20-2006 11:57 PM

Exactly my feelings on him....

Wild7Dustr 02-08-2006 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unitedbyrock
Any fans of the late great man here?

What a guitarist! My favourite album is 'couldn't satnd the weather' and my favourite song is 'pride and joy'

He just had a great feel to his playing!

He's one of the best guitarists that blues ever had the pleasure to invite in!!!I've loved the album "Live Alive" ever since I first got it and believe that alot of the "texas flood" tracks that are on there sound better than the albums versions!!!

In closing, get "Live Alive" in memory of S.R.V. and take a listen to S.R.V.'s almost 10 minute long version of "Voodoo Chile" on it...
...it's just so damn good!!!:clap:

dojo 02-09-2006 10:27 AM

I recall one of my huge revelations was when I heard Tin Pan Alley .. my God, that was a great song ... I used to broadcast it on my radio show .. I miss my job :(

Wild7Dustr 02-09-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dojo
I recall one of my huge revelations was when I heard Tin Pan Alley .. my God, that was a great song ... I used to broadcast it on my radio show .. I miss my job :(

Just purchase a disc of it...then you can listen to it whenever and wherever you want!!!:beer:

hookers with machineguns 02-11-2006 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfromhell
I agree, he's a technically great guitarist but I don't really like the style of his music very much. Certainly not on the level of Hendrix, if you ask me, I never get any feeling from SRV's music.

I see what you're saying, but he's just more "soulful" (maybe not right word) than Hendrix, at least that's how I feel when hearing his music. Also, I'd probably put him above Hendrix in terms of skill, but that's just b/c I'm extremely biased when it comes to SRV. ;)

Wild7Dustr 02-12-2006 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns
I see what you're saying, but he's just more "soulful" (maybe not right word) than Hendrix, at least that's how I feel when hearing his music. Also, I'd probably put him above Hendrix in terms of skill, but that's just b/c I'm extremely biased when it comes to SRV. ;)

Ya know, Hendrix gets a lot more praise for his skill, although S.R.V. can play anything that he(ndrix) ever wrote without a problem!!!

If Hendrix gets so much praise, S.R.V. should get it too!!!:mad: It's a shame how underrated Stevie is when compared with Hendrix, ya know?

jazzfromhell 02-12-2006 12:59 AM

Yeah, I agree that technically SRV is as good as, perhaps better than, Jimi Hendrix, but technical doesn't mean much unless you go somewhere with it. Being in many top 10 guitarists ever lists doesn't strike me as underrated, but whatever. If you ask me, SRV gets exactly what he deservese. He was a technically great guitarist, but his style is boring, and his song writing (in my opinion) sucks, just dull, long-overused blues patterns, and there's no feeling to any of it. Example: SRV could probably play anything David Gilmour ever played about three times as fast. However, Dave's solos have tons of emotion and mood in them, both of which SRV lacks. Therefore, in my opinion, David Gilmour is the better guitarist.

dojo 02-12-2006 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wild7Dustr
Just purchase a disc of it...then you can listen to it whenever and wherever you want!!!:beer:

I have the disc .. but I still miss my job .. I could play some great music there .. looks like the serious music stations cannot survive in this commercial world.

Wild7Dustr 02-14-2006 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfromhell
Yeah, I agree that technically SRV is as good as, perhaps better than, Jimi Hendrix, but technical doesn't mean much unless you go somewhere with it. Being in many top 10 guitarists ever lists doesn't strike me as underrated, but whatever. If you ask me, SRV gets exactly what he deservese. He was a technically great guitarist, but his style is boring, and his song writing (in my opinion) sucks, just dull, long-overused blues patterns, and there's no feeling to any of it. Example: SRV could probably play anything David Gilmour ever played about three times as fast. However, Dave's solos have tons of emotion and mood in them, both of which SRV lacks. Therefore, in my opinion, David Gilmour is the better guitarist.

Honestly, I was trying not to blatantly say how much Hendrix was overrated compared to Vaughan, so, therefore I said that Vaughan was underrated compared to Hendrix, ya see?

And on your final statement-That doesn't prove to the world that he's (dave) the better guitarist because you think he shows more "emotion"!!!That's only shows that you think he's better, therefore showing your opinion only, got it?Nice talkin though, cheers!!!:beer:

Wild7Dustr 02-14-2006 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dojo
I have the disc .. but I still miss my job .. I could play some great music there .. looks like the serious music stations cannot survive in this commercial world.

Nowadays radio mainly thrives on pop songs and/or what's the "new thing", ya see!!!:hphones:

I'd recommend you to call your house a "radio" for a day and invite some friends over...play whatever bands inspire you, maybe even try "shuffle" if you choose!!!I guarantee you you'll have much more fun than waiting for 1 or 2 good songs to come out of an hours worth of pop/hits on the radio!!!:beer:

jazzfromhell 02-14-2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild7Dustr
Honestly, I was trying not to blatantly say how much Hendrix was overrated compared to Vaughan, so, therefore I said that Vaughan was underrated compared to Hendrix, ya see?

And on your final statement-That doesn't prove to the world that he's (dave) the better guitarist because you think he shows more "emotion"!!!That's only shows that you think he's better, therefore showing your opinion only, got it?Nice talkin though, cheers!!!:beer:


Yes, I suggest you take another look at my post. I agree with you that I think he's better, which is why I wrote in my opinion before writing it. ;)

gregb 02-14-2006 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfromhell
SRV could probably play anything David Gilmour ever played about three times as fast. However, Dave's solos have tons of emotion and mood in them, both of which SRV lacks.

Actually SRV is one of the slower guitar masters. None of his solos are that fast, mostly because blues rock isn't fast obviously. I think SRV's cover of voodoo child is much better than hendrix's original. If you've ever seen SRV live/dvd you'd know he puts every once of himself in the song.

jazzfromhell 02-14-2006 11:35 PM

I actually have seen a DVD of him performing, one of my friends is a big fan of his, and I can see that he's putting physical energy into his playing, but none of it comes out in the music for me. When it comes down to it, it's different strokes for different folks, I guess.

jr. 02-15-2006 11:16 PM

Well, I have expressed my views on SRV before, so I won't go into it again.
It's in here somewhere.

I will say this, though. To those who say he wasn't innovative, that's a fair enough point. But then again, what blues guitarist is? The blues has been the same twelve chord progression for nearly a century. There are several different interpretations and flavors, but at it's roots, blues has remained unchanged for nearly one hundred years. Robert Johnson, Elmore James, Hudie Ledbetter (a.k.a.Leadbelly), Son House, Howlin' Wold, Sonny Boy Williamson, and company, those guitartist were the innovators, not anyone from after, say, 1940 or so. They took the hymns and and songs the slaves sang, and put a guitar to them. That was innovative. Everything since those greats, like I stated before, are simply variations.

Blues is a state of mind, an emotion. If the emotion doesn't reach you, then for you, it's not exciting. That doesn't mean it's not good blues music. There are people who think Clapton is the greatest blues guitarist ever. For me, he's doesn't crack the top ten. I always found him to be forced and trite. But that's because I simply don't feel Clapton's emotion. I won't be like the people who like to come into these threads with no other purpose but to say "he sucks". It serves no purpose.

SRV, on the other hand, speaks to me. I feel the notes, I get something from it. I am confident in saying I am probably the biggest SRV fan in here. I'm also fairly certain I've been a fan longer than most, seeing as how I'm twice the age of most people here. I own all his releases, and an handful of things he didn't release. 'Live Alive' has been mentioned a few times. I own a bootleg of a live show on a Riverboat down in New Orleans. Oh, man. Smokin'!!! I also own SRV live at Carnegie Hall, with a full brass section.
Now that's a rich sound. My favorite live recording I have of SRV, though, is called 'In Session'. It's Stevie, and his biggest influence, Albert King, in a studio, with a couple of guitars, a couple of mikes, a bass guitarist and a drummer. Live, no dubbing, not mixing, nothing. Just pure energy. Awesome.

Wild7Dustr 02-16-2006 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfromhell
Yes, I suggest you take another look at my post. I agree with you that I think he's better, which is why I wrote in my opinion before writing it. ;)

Yes, I know you said something along the lines of "In Your Opinion!!!"As much as you like Dave though, still doesn't prove to the whole world that he's better, understand now?:usehead:

Your opinion is yours and my opinion is mine, End Of Discussion!!!:cool:

jazzfromhell 02-17-2006 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wild7Dustr
Yes, I know you said something along the lines of "In Your Opinion!!!"As much as you like Dave though, still doesn't prove to the whole world that he's better, understand now?:usehead:

Your opinion is yours and my opinion is mine, End Of Discussion!!!:cool:


I never said I was proving to the whole world that David Gilmour was a better guitarist. I'm not sure how you got that impression...but whatever you say, boyo, end of discussion.:wave:

Stone Magnet 06-16-2006 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfromhell
However, Dave's solos have tons of emotion and mood in them, both of which SRV lacks.

That is quite possibly the most preposterous thing I've read on this forum yet.

SRV's playing was absolutely saturated with emotion. David Gilmour's style is much different; much slower. Slower lead guitar playing is consistently appraised as being 'emotional', while the faster guitar players are regarded as 'colourless' and 'dull'. Stevie's guitar playing is just as emotional as Mr. Gilmour's, it's just a vastly divergent style.

Alo 06-16-2006 11:55 PM

I wish I was as fast as he was. He may have boring songs. But listening to Jibboom makes me shiver with jealousy! I must agree with people that his music isn't fun to listen to. But I'd like to add ''regularly'' to that. Because once in a while I love to watch movies of him, where you can see him loving his guitar so much, you'd think he'd have an orgasm!

And of course, I'm jealous of his wonderfull collection of guitars. /drool

motley_crue131 06-17-2006 10:31 PM

the greatest guitar player and blues artist ever to live. my favorite song is either pride and joy or mary had a little lamb

ddp 08-25-2006 08:06 AM

Stevie ahh. . .

Perhaps the greatest blues guitarist of all time. I saw him live about 5 times including the "Couldn't stand the weather" tour. Always incredible. I spent coutless hours in the 80s trying to play like him and he left a huge impression on my own playing.

Ace 08-25-2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by _LesPaul43_
Stevie Ray Blah.....hes ok...kinda boring

Stevie Ray Vaughan pwns TMV any day.

swim 08-26-2006 10:25 AM

One of my favorite guitarists ever. So feckin wonderful.

Alo 08-26-2006 12:28 PM

He's scary when he plays. And he has orgasms when he hits the right notes.

rsnjeff 09-26-2006 04:26 PM

I think that he is the best blues player to ever grace the guitar and that playing slow or fast he loved to play his instrument. I would have loved to see him play.

glazedface 09-29-2006 03:33 PM

he have not have been very innovative but he certaintly resurrected the blues and his music is fun to listen to.

boo boo 09-30-2006 12:33 PM

I do find SRV overrated to some extent, he wasn't very innovative, but then again as Jr pointed out, blues guitarists tend to do the same things over and over, sometimes shamelessly "borrowing" each others chords, which further pisses me off when people give Page, Clapton, SRV or any non-african american blues guitarist crap for doing the same thing, only with them it's considered stealing, I think it qualifies as reverse racism...

SRV had a unique style in his playing, for a blues guitarist, Texas Flood is an exellent album.

ddp 09-30-2006 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 291582)
I do find SRV overrated to some extent, he wasn't very innovative, but then again as Jr pointed out, blues guitarists tend to do the same things over and over, sometimes shamelessly "borrowing" each others chords, which further pisses me off when people give Page, Clapton, SRV or any non-african american blues guitarist for doing the same thing, only with them it's considered stealing, I think it qualifies as reverse racism...

SRV had a unique style in his playing, for a blues guitarist, Texas Flood is an exellent album.

Blues always has the same chords they don't shamelessly borrow chords. Blues by definition is a specific set of chords.
SRV however did not restrict himself to these chords though. Songs like "Couldn't stand the weather" stretched the genre.

I'm not even going to touch your comments about race they just don't make sense.

BTW B. B. King thinks Clapton is the greatest.

TheBig3 09-30-2006 10:37 PM

Which is odd because if anyone should be hammered for borrowing its clapton.

SRV was emotion, you can't argue that he stole, whatever he played he was feeling, and maybe that emotion is universal but its not stealing, it was him. SRV was ****ing amazing.

ddp 10-01-2006 06:54 AM

No music is completly original. It is all influenced by others. It should not be refered to as stealing. I like boo boo's use of the word "borrowing" much better.

I think that BB just thinks that clapton is a good musician.


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