Looking for help from big jazz fans

Rocnono · 12-05-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Ah, well I definitely know "The Girl From Ipanema".

So does the whole planet, usually some 10th rate imitation of Jobim\Gilberto original. I got into this because of Santana's version of Stone Flower on Caravansarai (a great version) and slowly got sucked into full blown bossa nova. Stan Getz was one of the first Americans to get on board and when i started to play sax, he was an obvious inspiration (how DOES he get that smooth sound?)

Demonoid · 12-06-2008, 06:01 PM

Does recommendation from 'smaller' Jazz fans count?

Other than Jazz fusion, I'm not really big on jazz except for the usual well known stuff.

Jazz sub-genres confuses me sometimes. I'd be happy if anyone could just name the sub-genres and an album along with it. In layman's terms and from whatever I've listened to, you could try these -

Horace Silver - Song for my father(easy listening stuff)
YouTube - Song For My Father-Horace Silver

Andrew Hill - Point of Departure(avant-garde'ish sound)
Couldn't find any track from this though.

Try and get your hands on some Zimbo Trio stuff as well

. They've got some great bossa nova stuff, especially some of the earlier releases. Most of the tracks on youtube seems scattered and all over the place. I'll just post whatever came up first.
YouTube - Zimbo Trio: zimbo samba (Farout Recordings)

Other than those, my knowledge is restricted to more of the popular choices already posted here.(and many more I don't know of yet, which I'll discover thanks to this thread

) I mean, holy ****, just browsing through some of these record labels leaves me with hundreds of names and releases.
There are many Jazz-related stuff as well. Some of it is ambient, and others are just too weird to even be considered avant-garde Jazz.(I'll just name them if you are interested)

As for Jazz-fusion, I'm restricted to the one's with a progressive structure. I'm not sure about fusion with other styles(although there are a few metal bands as well) but anyways, apart from the usual Mahavishnu Orchestra and Soft Machine, you could try -

Return to forever - Romantic Warrior(thanks Lucifer_sam for this

)
YouTube - Return To Forever - The Sorceress

Magma - S/T
YouTube - Magma - KobaÃ¯a

Bill Bruford - One of a Kind
YouTube - Bruford - Fainting in Coils

Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour
YouTube - Brand X Nuclear Burn

Al Di Meola - Elegant Gypsy
YouTube - Al Di Meola - Flight Over Rio

Allan Holdsworth - Metal Fatigue
The Un-Merry-Go-Round - Part 1, Part 2

If jazz fusion really didn't appeal much, oh well, not a big deal. For me, it surely does feel a lot different from the usual stuff discussed here.

Seltzer · 12-06-2008, 08:29 PM

Good calls on the Brand X and Bruford.

Terrible Lizard · 12-07-2008, 10:21 AM

And also check out Back Door, a progressive jazz band from the 70's.

YouTube - "Vienna Breakdown" - Back Door

Or maybe the 60's I'm not sure....

athandpr · 05-12-2009, 10:41 PM

This thread is a little old, but check out these guys:

Prophecies of War (Unfortunately, the forum is not letting me post a link. But if you google the name it will come up.)

There's a free sample on the page. But when I was listening to them the other the music borders on fusion and prog-rock, but in live performance I saw that they even use video.

BTW, I love Bitches Brew. I would also recommend much of Coltrane's music.

Take care.

jackhammer · 05-14-2009, 02:13 PM

Essbjorn Svensson Trio-Viaticum
Miles Davis-Argheta
Sun Ra-Space Is The Place
Ahmad Jamal-Essentials
Joni Mitchell-Shadows and Lights (more Jazz Folk but some awesome playing from Pastorius and Metheny)
Directions In Groove-Curvystrasse
Fela Kuti (everything! a lot of funk in there but he is so awesome)
Herbie Mann Joao Gilberto-Recorded In Rio De Janerio
Billy Cobham-The Funky Thides Of Sings (brilliant fusion)
Medeski,Martin & Wood-Bubblehouse
Charles Mingus-Mingus Ah Um

Just a few for you. I have all these so if you have any problems you know what to do. That's a diverse range there. I would presume that you know bands like Kayo Dot etc who dabble in Avant Garde.

Pornographie Nouveau · 05-14-2009, 02:26 PM

I like these albums a lot.

athandpr · 06-19-2009, 03:54 PM

I forgot last time, but you should check out Eddie Harris. Also Harris performed with Les McCann. Swiss movement is on of my favorites.

lj39 · 07-28-2009, 09:44 AM

I agree with a lot of the earlier picks on here as well...lot's of good stuff!

In case you are in the mood for some baritone sax-heavy stuff you can't go wrong with Gerry Mulligan or the World Saxophone Quartet

Also, a really great way to find new avenues in the jazz genre is check out some of the college radio stations. It's pretty common for them to contain a jazz show (if not two or more), and some of them focus strictly on jazz & blues.
(They also have quite a few stations that will stream over the net as well, so it's pretty easy whether actual radio or computer/internet.) I have some suggestions in this field if you're not sure which ones to try, but most of 'em are run by fans FOR fans..so it's really a win-win in my book!

RonaldSays · 08-04-2009, 08:07 AM

As much as I like the old legends to bits there are some younger top performers of today I really digg:
Joshua Redman, Branford Marsalis, Jeff "Tain" Watts, Antonio Sanchez, Horacio "El Negro" Hernandez, Chris Potter. All worth checking out.
Also I can highly recommend Dutch performers Benjamin Herman, Michiel Borstlap, Eric Vloeimans and Jasper Blom.

Just google any of the names and start listening

12-06-2008, 06:01 PM	#22 (permalink)
Demonoid Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 734	Does recommendation from 'smaller' Jazz fans count? Other than Jazz fusion, I'm not really big on jazz except for the usual well known stuff. Jazz sub-genres confuses me sometimes. I'd be happy if anyone could just name the sub-genres and an album along with it. In layman's terms and from whatever I've listened to, you could try these - Horace Silver - Song for my father(easy listening stuff) YouTube - Song For My Father-Horace Silver Andrew Hill - Point of Departure(avant-garde'ish sound) Couldn't find any track from this though. Try and get your hands on some Zimbo Trio stuff as well . They've got some great bossa nova stuff, especially some of the earlier releases. Most of the tracks on youtube seems scattered and all over the place. I'll just post whatever came up first. YouTube - Zimbo Trio: zimbo samba (Farout Recordings) Other than those, my knowledge is restricted to more of the popular choices already posted here.(and many more I don't know of yet, which I'll discover thanks to this thread ) I mean, holy ***, just browsing through some of these record labels leaves me with hundreds of names and releases. There are many Jazz-related stuff as well. Some of it is ambient, and others are just too weird to even be considered avant-garde Jazz.(I'll just name them if you are interested) As for Jazz-fusion, I'm restricted to the one's with a progressive structure. I'm not sure about fusion with other styles(although there are a few metal bands as well) but anyways, apart from the usual Mahavishnu Orchestra and Soft Machine, you could try - Return to forever - Romantic Warrior(thanks Lucifer_sam for this ) YouTube - Return To Forever - The Sorceress Magma - S/T* YouTube - Magma - KobaÃ¯a Bill Bruford - One of a Kind YouTube - Bruford - Fainting in Coils Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour YouTube - Brand X Nuclear Burn Al Di Meola - Elegant Gypsy YouTube - Al Di Meola - Flight Over Rio Allan Holdsworth - Metal Fatigue The Un-Merry-Go-Round - Part 1, Part 2 If jazz fusion really didn't appeal much, oh well, not a big deal. For me, it surely does feel a lot different from the usual stuff discussed here. Last edited by Demonoid; 12-06-2008 at 06:06 PM.

12-06-2008, 08:29 PM	#23 (permalink)
Seltzer Fish in the percolator! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hobbit Land NZ Posts: 2,870	Good calls on the Brand X and Bruford. __________________ In the Court of King Crimson \| Last.fm \| RYM

12-07-2008, 10:21 AM	#24 (permalink)
Terrible Lizard **ER OF HOLES Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Butt**, Nebraska Posts: 1,211	And also check out Back Door, a progressive jazz band from the 70's. YouTube - "Vienna Breakdown" - Back Door Or maybe the 60's I'm not sure.... __________________ “YOU ARE SCUM SLUT.” -John Martyn

05-14-2009, 02:13 PM	#26 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Essbjorn Svensson Trio-Viaticum Miles Davis-Argheta Sun Ra-Space Is The Place Ahmad Jamal-Essentials Joni Mitchell-Shadows and Lights (more Jazz Folk but some awesome playing from Pastorius and Metheny) Directions In Groove-Curvystrasse Fela Kuti (everything! a lot of funk in there but he is so awesome) Herbie Mann Joao Gilberto-Recorded In Rio De Janerio Billy Cobham-The Funky Thides Of Sings (brilliant fusion) Medeski,Martin & Wood-Bubblehouse Charles Mingus-Mingus Ah Um Just a few for you. I have all these so if you have any problems you know what to do. That's a diverse range there. I would presume that you know bands like Kayo Dot etc who dabble in Avant Garde. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

06-19-2009, 03:54 PM	#28 (permalink)
athandpr Groupie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2	Eddie Harris I forgot last time, but you should check out Eddie Harris. Also Harris performed with Les McCann. Swiss movement is on of my favorites. __________________ Prophecies of War A cinema-concert http://www.PropheciesofWar.com

05-12-2009, 10:41 PM	#25 (permalink)
athandpr Groupie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2	This thread is a little old, but check out these guys: Prophecies of War (Unfortunately, the forum is not letting me post a link. But if you google the name it will come up.) There's a free sample on the page. But when I was listening to them the other the music borders on fusion and prog-rock, but in live performance I saw that they even use video. BTW, I love Bitches Brew. I would also recommend much of Coltrane's music. Take care.

05-14-2009, 02:26 PM	#27 (permalink)
Pornographie Nouveau Hip Priest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 302	I like these albums a lot.

07-28-2009, 09:44 AM	#29 (permalink)
lj39 Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Floating at the bottom of a pint Posts: 162	I agree with a lot of the earlier picks on here as well...lot's of good stuff! In case you are in the mood for some baritone sax-heavy stuff you can't go wrong with Gerry Mulligan or the World Saxophone Quartet Also, a really great way to find new avenues in the jazz genre is check out some of the college radio stations. It's pretty common for them to contain a jazz show (if not two or more), and some of them focus strictly on jazz & blues. (They also have quite a few stations that will stream over the net as well, so it's pretty easy whether actual radio or computer/internet.) I have some suggestions in this field if you're not sure which ones to try, but most of 'em are run by fans FOR fans..so it's really a win-win in my book!

08-04-2009, 08:07 AM	#30 (permalink)
RonaldSays Amateur Drum Kit Wrestler Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 155	As much as I like the old legends to bits there are some younger top performers of today I really digg: Joshua Redman, Branford Marsalis, Jeff "Tain" Watts, Antonio Sanchez, Horacio "El Negro" Hernandez, Chris Potter. All worth checking out. Also I can highly recommend Dutch performers Benjamin Herman, Michiel Borstlap, Eric Vloeimans and Jasper Blom. Just google any of the names and start listening __________________ Want to know what I have to say? My Blog My Twitter