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Old 01-20-2009, 12:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Skalpel is a newer one I found, I quite like it, using a lot of samples from old polish jazz. Some solid tunes so far :thumbsu: Thanks Demonoid

You may be interest Dave

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Skalpel is a newer one I found, I quite like it, using a lot of samples from old polish jazz. Some solid tunes so far :thumbsu: Thanks Demonoid

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It's definitely a grower. Basically lays the groove down, which is what I look for in many of these releases. Glad you liked it at least.
And I wouldn't mind giving 'Nils Petter Molvaer' a listen either. I just happened to bump into that name again today, which got me interested. Their/his discog seems to be a bit medium sized though. I suppose 'Khmer' would be the best to start with as you've mentioned it already.
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Jeeez; NO ONE has mentioned to this poor soul the Miles Davis groups of the 70s!!! Check out the records "Bitches Brew," "Live Evil," and "Live At The Fillmore 1970: It's About That Time." You will not be let down.
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P.S.- Not so sure I'd call this Skalpel fellow jazz or not. Eh I hate labels. Jazz is the most abused word in the world.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Now, If you want to give me an essay that all this is trash and old-school stuff is the best yadayada, say it elsewhere.
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Hmmm maybe if this was a thread about jazz fusion... You could add those to the list...

Unfortunately this is about electronic jazz. Or Nu-Jazz...
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It's definitely a grower. Basically lays the groove down, which is what I look for in many of these releases. Glad you liked it at least.
And I wouldn't mind giving 'Nils Petter Molvaer' a listen either. I just happened to bump into that name again today, which got me interested. Their/his discog seems to be a bit medium sized though. I suppose 'Khmer' would be the best to start with as you've mentioned it already.
Yeah Khmer would be the go... I'll try and find a blog...
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Hmmm maybe if this was a thread about jazz fusion... You could add those to the list...

Unfortunately this is about electronic jazz. Or Nu-Jazz...
I'm sorry I offended you Zarko, but what's with the hang up on genres? The original poster seemed to be looking for jazz with more electronic (I thought of the word electric too, apparently there is a massive distinction between these two words) elements. He asked about a dedicated group with a unique style. Naturally I thought of the Miles group. Fusion is a word invented after Bitches Brew came out. Electric, electronic, whatever you want to call it, its jazz(ish) and it has electr(on)ic elements. No not electronicA elements. But I didn't assume that by electronic he meant electronica.

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I'd love to give you an essay but all it needs is a few sentences instead. In general, if there is one thing that binds all of what people call 'jazz' together (even that **** Kenny G and the smooth 'jazz' ****e in the world) it is improvisation. Skalpel are two DJs mixing samples together to create tunes... maybe one of them is the drummer. Point being, it lacks improvisation. At any rate, I'm sorry I even said anything because nitpicking about genres creates wasteful arguments about electric vs. electronic vs. fusion vs. who the **** cares the kid wants to listen to some new music.

To the original poster, I sincerely apologize if I have led you astray to something horrific and not at all what you had in mind! God only knows how dangerous some music can be to a person's mind!
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I'm sorry I offended you Zarko, but what's with the hang up on genres? The original poster seemed to be looking for jazz with more electronic (I thought of the word electric too, apparently there is a massive distinction between these two words) elements. He asked about a dedicated group with a unique style. Naturally I thought of the Miles group. Fusion is a word invented after Bitches Brew came out. Electric, electronic, whatever you want to call it, its jazz(ish) and it has electr(on)ic elements. No not electronicA elements. But I didn't assume that by electronic he meant electronica.



I'd love to give you an essay but all it needs is a few sentences instead. In general, if there is one thing that binds all of what people call 'jazz' together (even that **** Kenny G and the smooth 'jazz' ****e in the world) it is improvisation. Skalpel are two DJs mixing samples together to create tunes... maybe one of them is the drummer. Point being, it lacks improvisation. At any rate, I'm sorry I even said anything because nitpicking about genres creates wasteful arguments about electric vs. electronic vs. fusion vs. who the **** cares the kid wants to listen to some new music.

To the original poster, I sincerely apologize if I have led you astray to something horrific and not at all what you had in mind! God only knows how dangerous some music can be to a person's mind!
lol so you didn't get the point, and are now trying to turn it around on us? The OP clearly states he is talking about genres, the electronic genre. electronica is just another name or sub genre for the genre electronic. fusion is not a part of the electronic genre.

The sampling is pure jazz from the 60's onwards... They fuse that with their electronica overtones. Its like acid jazz, nu jazz...

The funny thing is, you are the one getting all 'hung up' on genres... SO it seems pretty hypocritical of you
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