Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   Jazz & Blues (https://www.musicbanter.com/jazz-blues/)
-   -   What Jazz album are you listening to? (https://www.musicbanter.com/jazz-blues/39416-what-jazz-album-you-listening.html)

grindy 02-16-2020 03:32 AM

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Real_McCoy.jpg

Essential.
Been getting into his albums as a bandleader lately.
Some of it is as good as Coltrane's best albums. Sorry for the blasphemy.

OccultHawk 02-16-2020 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2104966)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Real_McCoy.jpg

Essential.
Been getting into his albums as a bandleader lately.
Some of it is as good as Coltrane's best albums. Sorry for the blasphemy.

The Law of Unassailabilty allows for that. It’s quantum physics for music fans. At the spooky distance of unassailabilty Coltrane cannot be equaled while at the same time Tyner can equal Coltrane. Classical statements which work for that which is assailable like a>b>c so therefore c<a don’t apply to the unassailable.

Tyner creates beautiful oceans of sound in those records. When he played with Coltrane he was the greatest pianist ever and he took shape as the most beautiful body of water ever known: the river. Then he was the greatest pianist ever taking place in the most beautiful body of water ever know: the ocean.

I love the way his playing opens up. He opened it up when he was supposed to and he focused it when he was supposed to.

Anyway, what you’re saying is not blasphemy because Tyner’s genius can’t be overstated.

grindy 02-16-2020 06:08 AM

Good.

GreyZone 03-04-2020 10:44 AM

Listened to Odyssey, a 1975 double album by a Norwegian guitarist called Terje Rypdal a few days ago. Good album.

Psy-Fi 03-14-2020 06:58 AM

A two-fer from Sun Ra & His Arkestra...




The Booman 03-29-2020 05:58 PM

Miles Davis "Live Evil'.

The Booman 03-31-2020 02:21 PM

Been listening to a lot of early Taj Mahal.

Anteater 03-31-2020 06:17 PM

https://www.balaha-records.com/WebRo...r-sh-00355.jpg
Rabih Abou-Khalil - Bukra (1989)

The king of the oud. Criminally underrated artist & album.


https://img1.daumcdn.net/thumb/R800x...27334DEE72470C
Dimension - Fifth Dimension (1995)

Probably the most vigorous of the classic 80's/90's Japanese fusion bands, Dimension have over 30+ albums and their sound hasn't changed all that much since their start in '92, but 5th Dimension is an extremely strong release that stands out. Reminds me of all those great racing games I played in the Sega Genesis years but with a meatier sound palette.

Exo 04-02-2020 09:32 AM

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0979737946_5.jpg

Theon Cross
Fyah

Some really nice Afro-Jazz from the Sons of Kemet tuba player. Notable drums from Moses Boyd of Binker and Moses as well.

The Booman 04-02-2020 07:07 PM

Going through my dads Jimmy Smith LPs.

OccultHawk 04-02-2020 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Booman (Post 2110675)
Going through my dads Jimmy Smith LPs.

Is Back at the Chicken Shack in there?

The Booman 04-02-2020 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2110700)
Is Back at the Chicken Shack in there?

LOL

Yes it is. That one and "Got My Mojo Workin' " are two of my earliest musical memories. My mom worked on Saturdays so my dad spent the day playing his blues, jazz and Beatles albums. I used my longest Lincoln Logs as drumsticks and would bang about the coffee table.

Exo 04-04-2020 01:37 PM


The Booman 04-06-2020 04:31 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3LEC0T3Fw

OccultHawk 04-06-2020 04:52 PM

That’s dope

The Booman 04-07-2020 04:00 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3gV-gq5qB0

Exo 04-08-2020 10:16 AM

https://www.thevinyldistrict.com/wp-...1/PYRAMIDS.jpg

The Pyramids
Lalibela

Wild spiritual and afro jazz. On the cusp of being free but in a more tribal way. Crazy rhythm section.

OccultHawk 04-08-2020 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2111539)
https://www.thevinyldistrict.com/wp-...1/PYRAMIDS.jpg

The Pyramids
Lalibela

Wild spiritual and afro jazz. On the cusp of being free but in a more tribal way. Crazy rhythm section.

This is my listening plan for the rest of the day.

FYI: https://www.thewire.co.uk/galleries/...r-the-pyramids

Quote:

The Pyramids came together in the 1970s at Antioch College, Ohio, as part of Cecil Taylor’s Black Music Ensemble.
This book that I recently finished had a bunch of information about this but I don’t remember this band and I tried to make note of any names dropped that I didn’t know. Probably in there but I forgot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2108955)
https://i.postimg.cc/L5Ybcyr8/3-D2-A...8261131-D3.png

This Is Our Music: Free Jazz, the Sixties, and American Culture by Iain Anderson

This a fantastic read for people with a solid background knowledge on free jazz. It is VERY dense with information. It’s not juicy fun stuff about the artists though; it’s facts about the music and its recognized place in American culture. Some of the stats concerning the lack of appreciation are depressing but on the other hand, the permanence of the free jazz masters is a rectification.

Published in 2007 I hope the author has been paying attention to what has happened musically since then.


Exo 04-08-2020 12:31 PM

That just an e-book or can I grab a physical copy?

OccultHawk 04-08-2020 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2111554)
That just an e-book or can I grab a physical copy?

I downloaded it off libgen.

Exo 04-08-2020 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2111558)
I downloaded it off libgen.

Nice.

Exo 04-08-2020 01:35 PM

https://img.discogs.com/THtPYvJ3bBCF...-7042.jpeg.jpg

John Coltrane
Concert in Japan

What is there to say? It's sublime.

OccultHawk 04-08-2020 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2111539)
https://www.thevinyldistrict.com/wp-...1/PYRAMIDS.jpg

The Pyramids
Lalibela

Wild spiritual and afro jazz. On the cusp of being free but in a more tribal way. Crazy rhythm section.

Unassailable

Thanks Sexo

Exo 04-08-2020 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2111570)
Unassailable

Thanks Sexo

I'm going to assume you don't have an instagram but you can still use your browser to check out my friend who owns a shop in upstate NY. He's one of the top jazz collectors in the tri-state area and is literally friends with Joe McPhee. He turns me onto a lot of stuff. His IG handle is Hvvinyl. Dude is writing a book on Sun Ra records as he has pretty much all of the originals. Check him out.

OccultHawk 04-08-2020 02:12 PM

I looked at the page. About 10 second in it blogs the view with a download instagram for more thing.

I’m not that into original pressings and all that. I’m just a listener not a collector. Finding stuff that hasn’t already been said about SunRa is a tall order. I mean, I haven’t actually read a biography on him but I think there would be a fine line of respecting his mythology and disrespecting it.

It might sound like I’m being negative about your friend. I’m not. It’s tricky business to get right. Music writers often want to demystify or offer a tempered response to deification. I’m a fan. Not an artist. Not a critic. A fan. When I read about music I want the writer to worship the subject. Podcasts too. I don’t want tempered opinions. I want praise sprinkled with worship.

Exo 04-08-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2111575)
I looked at the page. About 10 second in it blogs the view with a download instagram for more thing.

I’m not that into original pressings and all that. I’m just a listener not a collector. Finding stuff that hasn’t already been said about SunRa is a tall order. I mean, I haven’t actually read a biography on him but I think there would be a fine line of respecting his mythology and disrespecting it.

It might sound like I’m being negative about your friend. I’m not. It’s tricky business to get right. Music writers often want to demystify or offer a tempered response to deification. I’m a fan. Not an artist. Not a critic. A fan. When I read about music I want the writer to worship the subject. Podcasts too. I don’t want tempered opinions. I want praise sprinkled with worship.

Yeah, f*ck that then. I hate when I try to see anything on Facebook and it does that to me so I get it.

I only told you about him because he's a great source of new stuff to listen to which is my main objective in life. Listen to as much as I can to broaden my ears. It's to the point where I'll actually listen to Frown's music. Give it all to me. Give me the weird. Give me the strange. Give me the noise.

Exo 04-08-2020 02:29 PM

https://img.discogs.com/oYc6aLptyZd2...05874.jpeg.jpg

Anthony Braxton
3 Compositions of New Jazz

First record from the professor. Right off the bat he's out there. Dude is a whacky genius.

Exo 04-08-2020 03:05 PM

https://e.snmc.io/i/300/w/a844f792a1...73ac01/1881076

Trio Vjačeslava Ganelina
Ancora da capo

Fantastic free jazz from Czechoslovakia. Live recording I believe.

OccultHawk 04-08-2020 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2111588)
https://e.snmc.io/i/300/w/a844f792a1...73ac01/1881076

Trio Vjačeslava Ganelina
Ancora da capo

Fantastic free jazz from Czechoslovakia. Live recording I believe.

That’s probably this from my exchange with Frown on your top 50 jazz records

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2109204)
Susana Santos Silva is Portuguese. FYI

In my mind Vyacheslav Ganelin is way up near the top of not at the very top of the European Jazz mountain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2109205)
New to me, which album(s) should I scope out first?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2109207)
Ancora da Capo by the Ganelin Trio

If after looking at it that doesn’t ring a bell that kind of blows my mind. Not in an insulting way or anything but when I was in college there was a huge mystique about these guys that were literally risking their lives to play free jazz in the Soviet Union. The recordings listed on the Wikipedia page were bootlegged into CDs and cassettes with so many misleading titles and ****. I sent paychecks to Leo Records once I saw their catalog.

Much later I had terse email exchange with Leo Feigin himself (I think) about how bull**** it was the records were so expensive. I was super respectful of what he did bringing so much great music to the world but still. Some of those big mail orders from Leo Records were the last big additions to my physical music collection.

However, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t really recorded in Czechoslovakia

LEO RECORDS: CD LR 108: The Ganelin Trio - Ancora Da Capo

Quote:

Part 1 recorded in Leningrad 15.11.1980, part 2 recorded in West Berlin two weeks earlier, which was the first appearance of The Ganelin Trio in the West.

Exo 04-08-2020 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2111606)
However, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t really recorded in Czechoslovakia

LEO RECORDS: CD LR 108: The Ganelin Trio - Ancora Da Capo

Totally possible. I had it in my endless Spotify list but I have no idea how they got there at this point.

As for where it was recorded...I have it on good authority from a certain guru on this site that it was recorded in Czech but RYM says they formed in Lithuania and the LP was pressed in Czech.

OccultHawk 04-08-2020 04:54 PM

LEO Records is the definitive source.

grindy 04-09-2020 01:10 AM

Ganelin is Lithuanian, the other two Russian. BTW I'd really recommend checking out this one by Chekasin:
https://www.discogs.com/de/%D0%92%D0.../master/242051

Psy-Fi 04-10-2020 06:37 AM

https://i.ibb.co/nmBSXTk/CL.jpg
Sun Ra - Celestial Love (1984)




A recent (2020) re-release of Sun Ra's "Celestial Love" studio album from 1984, with a bonus track "Drop Me Off in Harlem" which wasn't on the original release.

OccultHawk 04-10-2020 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2111662)
Ganelin is Lithuanian, the other two Russian. BTW I'd really recommend checking out this one by Chekasin:
https://www.discogs.com/de/%D0%92%D0.../master/242051

I’m not sure what to make of that one. I think I’ve heard it before. It sounds kind of silly but maybe I’m failing to transport myself to their perspective.

Anteater 04-10-2020 07:58 PM

Gigi Masin - Calypso (2020)

At times gorgeously Balearic and other times menacing and unsettling. Gigi is one of the great sagemasters at blending jazz and ambient and this album is a top contender for me for AOTY.


OccultHawk 04-12-2020 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2111952)
Gigi Masin - Calypso (2020)

At times gorgeously Balearic and other times menacing and unsettling. Gigi is one of the great sagemasters at blending jazz and ambient and this album is a top contender for me for AOTY.


I listened. I like the way the songs are distinct and well-crafted but still carry the signature features of ambient music that usually carries on for much longer. Also, as you pointed out, it’s nice to hear old school traditional instruments working with the electronics. It fits with what I’ve been in the mood to hear. Great recommendation, thanks.

Anteater 04-12-2020 09:14 AM

Glad you like it brother. It came up through a random Bandcamp recommendation and I was surprised at how great it was right out of the gate. Ben Vince on sax doesn't hurt either.

Exo 04-14-2020 01:42 PM

https://img.discogs.com/zfJud89SqUW3...44043.jpeg.jpg

John Coltrane
Om

F*ck my ears with your sonic appendages you filthy f*cks. I love this album. Treat me like your play thing.

OccultHawk 04-14-2020 01:44 PM

The critics who trashed that album are fools.

Exo 04-14-2020 01:45 PM

You think the legend they were all on LSD is true? I mean, they were on drugs, but LSD? I believe it.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:18 AM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.