Thank you adidasss, yeah I don't really see what the problem is with whipping up sub forums. I can't imagine their using java to make them.

i suppose maybe.. what im saying is that i agree with you, musicbanter should see some changes. but when the changes are made, (im saying this from past experience with other sub forums that we have requested, and the musicbanter blog that we all said we would post in so willingly) there will not be a sufficient number of people interested in it. not to say that im against the folk forum, because i am completely in support of it, but it has become a practically dead forum. along with a lot of the other forums here, people wouldnt pay attention to it because they are too wrapped up in the assanine game threads and "ohmegeee" posts and such.

A new admin is a bad idea, who else would pay for the forum? Also I agree this is a music forum and it does seem like people come to post in the lounge and boring forum game threads. I think sub forums will help because maybe their could be intelligent dicussion outside of the music forums for once.

Simple idea.

Make a political thread and see what happens. It gets five replies and descends into a slanging match, then there's really little point it having its own forum, but if it gets three pages of thought provoking, challenging replies, then it gives you much more evidence to present the moderators with than a thread like this.

But from your "rebuttle" to perfection... I'd be willing to wager that you'll have trouble keeping your replies free of personal insults.

as far as the blog thing is concerned, i knew right away that it wasn't going to work, first of all, i don't know about you, but visually, the blog is just very unapealing, second, the link for it is situated in a place where most people never look, and thirdly, what ever we have to say about music and news about music is done in the forum....

politics and film/television subforums would have more threads and posts in them than the folk forum because there's a hell of a lot more things to discuss in them.....

as far as the international music forum, it was a bust because you're all assholes and narrow minded pricks who wont listen to anything that isn't in english, 60% of the threads in there were made by me......

thank you, that is all......

we already have loads of "political" threads that got plenty of replies.....check out the bush thread....

Yeah franscar, what the **** does that mean? I can't keep away from slagging people personally?

There have been tons of political threads. Anything concerning the city (or polis, from the greek meaning city state) is political. I mean, to make a statement like that you'd have to have disregarded you total lack of knowledge on the lounge culture just to go for the insult.

I don't care if you want to insult me thats fine, but when your "suggestion" suggests you don't know the material in front of you, you might as well have just insulted me. That suggestion just looks like a weak attempt to stay on topic.

As for my responce, PTS came in here to be a whiney bitch. "I just odn't think it will work" isn't even an arguement, its an opinion. One that has no factual basis and one he's clearly wrong on. Sure, people do go into political threads and say "Bush sucks" but since the majority of people in those threads actually said something about the topic, off topic spammers are few and far between. Im sorry PTS is mad no one said something nice about him, im sorry you and your friends don't like me. But when I attempt to progress these boards and you do nothing but try to tear it down because you don't like me, well you hurt the boards in general, the people who come here and your own reputation.

Im willing to put down the sword, can you? Slag me in the threads where im being a jackass, fine, but not when im workign to make it a better place for conducive, intelligent conversation.

this has happened before, and yes im guilty of it myself. someone pleads for a new forum, some one gets a new forum, it dies on its arse? i could envisage a similiar fate for this proposed one but hey, give it a bash, whats there to lose?

I'd like it if from now on you could just say in each thread if you don't want the forum for one of the following reasons:

1. Its a bad idea
2. you're a jackass Big3 and I don't care if you propose a cure for AIDS, I'll oppose it
3. Im just a negitive ****.

that a general demand or something directed at me? im too tired to tell the difference.