wait this is what feminism is about? well ****, in that case sign me up.

Yes sign him up I want to see Q's boobies.

Does that make Google the patriarchy?

:D

Ruddy swines.

*batlord burns his bra*

mmm another thread to ruin

Most feminists suck but I do think it's needed in a system where the patriarchy is so normal that we don't even know it.

I remember having a conversation with Buttress about how women don't want to join certain professions like being scientists and things like that and she told me that it's 'not true at all because we have plenty of female scientists that have made so many extremely notable discoveries that we just don't know about because our patriarchal system doesn't celebrate brilliant female minds the same way it celebrates male minds just for even appearing brilliant.

So here's a controversial question:

To give some background, I was watching a book review the other day and the young woman speaking was criticizing how all the strong female characters in fantasy novels are not realistic. They are written as these superhero types who take on many giant well trained warriors.. blah blah, you get the idea. She went on to say how she would like to see the author play to a woman's strength, but gave no examples.

So im curious, what are the strengths of women that men are factually/biologically disadvantaged in? I really thought about this question and couldn't come up with an answer(at least a practical one). Not that I believe or act as if it were true, but strictly speaking it seems that men are either superior or equal across the board. I'm hoping someone can point out some things I overlooked.

Women have more endurance.

Really? That's interesting if true, I'll have to look for some studies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129154/

I haven't reviewed the phenomena enough to know if there are conflicting studies.

Women have more evenly spread intelligence which results in far fewer complete idiots. Also far fewer geniuses but I think overall that’s a superiority.

I'm indifferent to it as a man.
I understand and respect feminism for what it represents to women.
But I've also seen it expressed in so many ways that it might as well be an umbrella genre with several umbrella subgenres beneath it so to speak.
For as much as I'd like a girlfriend, I honestly stay single in part because I'm not really inclined to take anyone's **** beyond a certain point. I have left relationships, good paying jobs, and friendships all because of disrespectful, irate or irrational people trying to tell me how to run my life, though that has nothing to do with feminism, that's just how I am as a person. I don't really fit on a map of sociology anywhere, and I make it a point to try not to.

Makes more sense to just advocate for human rights and dispassionate treatment under the law and in day to day interactions.

Lol. One day Goofle will get over the intentionally obtuse language disagreement and understand that equal rights is the goal of feminism. He's gonna feel so silly.

Where are you getting your information from?

Bell curve.

And I guess that's why Feminism still exists Frown, because of the rights women don't have? Feel free to name one by the way.

Damn you sure got me with that one!

Which human rights are you were you recommending that we defend/advocate for if everyone's already equal? Why even bother? Just crack open a beer, brev, everything's golden.

It's not about rights. It's about the way society treats women, you silly bastard.

I think you’ve had enough anyway bud.

As always, thanks for the non-discussion.

Anytime.

I think Frown and Lucem are mostly just waiting you to cite your youtube videos.

hoping it won't be a bunch of Sargon b.s. or similar stuff

Goofle doesn't like Sargon cause he's a pinko leftist commie bastard.

I always liked Judge Judy's take on feminism:


I never agreed with everything the feminist movement seems to stand for and I live in one of the most "equal" lands on the planet. It just seems to me that it gets abused at times..with women stating that we are not equal enough with men and that more changes are needed and more women are needed to be seen in places that are typically male dominated (such as construction, the military, ect.). I persoanlly believe that women should be able to do what they want in terms of a job but not to do a job because they think they have the right to(such as working in construction because you have the right to rather than because you are good at it). Why do I want a lesser product because it is created by people who identify with a certain movement? If you look at construction websites in my area, there is a push to put women on the cover, in order to show "We hire women, therefore we are good": But who cares? Why
not just show good workers rather than showing certain groups?

Movements such as Metoo were neccesary but not to the point that people end up in jobs/schools/etc. where they are underqualified but use a movement to get there. To me, that is not fair at all.


I think that it should be about balance.

The thing is that you assume they are under qualified because they are women. You wouldn't assume men are under qualified.

No. What I am saying is that I think alot of people use movements to get ahead or something that they might not be qualified for in the first place. I know women who do this and I think it is crap to do so. You should get ahead by your own merits, not because a company has to have a certain number or needs to show a certain face. And this is happening alot in typically male dominated areas like construction. Women are becoming managers not because they can do
the job but because they are a woman and companies have to show that they employ a certain number. to advoid lawsuits.

And the same thing happens to men in traditionally female dominated workplaces such as education. I know men who are qualified pre-school teachers but cannot get a job because of parental prejudice or being cold-shouldered
by colleagues. One guy I know called for a job and was told that "they don't hire pedophiles". Which he is not. But because he is a man, it was assumed. Now he works in a completly different field.

And this is coming from a woman who has worked for IT/engineering firms.

Yes, people assumed he was a pedo because he was a man. That's what people do.

Or maybe he was a shitty teacher?

Sorta like whats happening in nursery schools here atm, men aren't even being considered for jobs because perents won't allow it.

Women are the first ones to assume these things. Always saying stupid **** like, "She sucked dick to get the job!" Or "They only hired her to look progressive!". You let the straight white cis male get into your head and start oppressing your own gender. Now quit letting the straight white cis male think for you and start thinking what I tell you to think. I'm a straight white cis male, you can trust me.

In America at least from what I’ve seen there’s very little correlation between being a good teacher and keeping your job. Keep in mind I quit before you start crying sour grapes. It’s nothing like the private sector where a job well done provides security. It’s completely willy-nilly.

Men shouldn’t teach elementary or lower and especially not preschool. That’s abnormal af. Elementary kids spend too much time with one teacher anyway but it’s motherly work so women should do it.

I think that's true for most jobs, not just teaching.

Maybe but not sales. If you can sell more than the next guy you’re golden.

Of the 5 professors I've had that stand out as great, only one of them is still teaching. Based on my experience, the longstanding community college professors are really worth their salt because they haven't killed themselves to get out of dealing with the local high school's unprepared grads.

Motherly work?

Please become erased from the psyche of humanity.

He's not wrong. Men can't breastfeed, except maybe Frownland.

Your teachers breastfed you?

Not until my dreams in high school. I had some hot teachers and subs.

It’s a nice way to say bitch work.

Here, parents get 480 days of shared, paid maternity leave after a child's birth and VAB (when a child is sick, the parent stays home and gets 80 % of their salary payed by the state for as many days as needed). So men and women are expected to share raising a kid . In the US, you guys have a joke of a maternity system..what is it, like two weeks and then kids are in preschool from six weeks ( edit :wait I was wrong, the US has no guaranteed, paid maternity leave)? It isn't a wonder there is a heavy expectation for women to raise the kids in the US and that carries on to gender expectations as you grow older.

Here, preschool is a recognized schoolform with its own state curriculum as is elementary ( unlike US curriculums which vary over the country). Teaching children about gender equality is stated in both and is taken quite seriously here. Unfortunately, there is a bias against males working with younger kids and the present influx of refugees/ immigrants from male dominated countries does not help things .

Ps And no, my friend was a good teacher. But he changed career paths .