TDOC are you eating yet??

The 2 t-bone steaks I had for you were delicious, and I swear I almost split the ass out of my pants because I was so full

If you haven't started eating yet, I would reccomend a meal like this

Well . .
Let me say this. The Emancipation Proclamation never gave african americans freedom. Please tell me where it says that and then we'll question my education.
And I'm not really a proud American citizen. That was just sarcasm.
During WWII, the president declared neutrality but was a hypocrite and decided to sell weapons to just Britain. That's why Japan attacked America. Because the president of the United States didn't understand the meaning of the word neutral. Or because he was being a hypocrite. Take your pick of words.

Judging by some of the other stuff you said it's safe to infer that you were somehow effected by WWII. (And whether you were effected or not doesn't matter to me because I don't care. So just go with it.) Well I'll tell you two things:
1) nowhere in my previous post did I say that all the millions of people that died in Europe deserved what happened to them. I only said that the US deserved to be attack. Get it straight
2) Try not to waste my time with posts like this if you don't have evidence to support what you are saying.

And before I leave, the very last sentence of your post, in real life, if you said that to my face, and someone was recording this, there'd be nothing left of you to be aired on CNN. Are we clear? I hope so.

And for the record, I don't think yuo came off as harsh and I never once thought you were attacking me. I just thought youw ere a person with an opinion without the ability to read between the lines.


Peace

He was known because he made himself known. Doc could do the same.

Anything's possible.

nobody deserves a cowardly attack of running planes into buildings, you should be deported. I am sure if your parents knew the way you felt, they would be ashamed. I was ashamed reading your post and I'm not even an American

Well theres a completely genius statement, someone famous because they made themselve famous? tdoc is a teenager, not a major political/spiritual leader and tons of teenagers starve themselves, for different reasons typically then this. I really doubt hes gonna be all over the news because hes doing this. All he is doing is damaging his health.

Theatening Crowe with violence?
What a fool, do you think anyone actually believes that you're some tough chick like you try to portray yourself as?

The Emancipation Proclamation declared that all slaves be freed. YOU do some research, or at least read THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the f*cking document before you proclaim to be an expert on it.


Can we all agree that Raine is an idiot with zero education?

I think you have succeded in making yourself look like an uneducated fool.

I don't really have anything to add I just don't like anybody being wrong.

emancipation

n : freeing someone from the control of another

wikipedia is our friend

Thank you very much swinintheundertow.

Tut. Ok, let's pick this apart.

I never said that it did grant "african americans" freedom. However, your education was already questioned and found faulty. You were wrong in your original statement that the Emancipation Proclamation gave the right for people of color to bear arms. A subject that is not even present in the EP. Also when you say "we'll question" you are not a necessary reagent in the questioning of your education. I can do it on my own successfully, as proven.
The EP did, however, grant freedom to SLAVES which would include africans and african americans. (However, when Lincoln announced it, it was only for states that had seceded from the union. The states that were still in the union - commonly known as border states - were not effected by the EP, but rather through their own governments followed suit).

Got it? Ok, that's one down.

Proud, not proud, your choice. Your sarcasm only now adds to your weak statements. Neutrality on that level is not as black and white as a dictionary's definition would make it out to be. To think that you believe you understand the political process and international impact of every action during wartime and questioning one of the greatest American president's motives only make you seem even more ridiculous. I do not, nor have I ever pretended to know the motives of something that is far above me.

I have not been immediately effected by WWII in the way you are suggesting. But by saying the US deserved to be attacked by terrorist/ will continue to "deserve" being attacked is a blanket statement that encompasses a slew of other applications of your words. Once again, if you think that a black and white generalization will be satisfactory for an intelligent conversation, you are wrong. You should prepare yourself to be in a position to defend your statements. In this case, you have made the aforementioned blanket statement and now you may be realizing the rather enormous load that is in tow of that statement.

Waste your time? If you think your time is being wasted, don't dedicate time to coming to a forums where opinions and discussions are held. Besides, not only did I give evidence to my statements (see: my explanation of armed people of color), provided a satirical situation using your apparent logic, and gave reasons to my own logic. All of these things are a whole in forming my conclusions and judgement... which is evidence.

Did you just threaten me online? Grow up. Go take that shiny new driver's license for a spin, little boy.

You are a person without the ability to create defined lines to begin with. You have made ignorant statements, own up to them.

Raine is a girl, just thought I would make that clear for you Crowe.

I have no clue as to why everyone here thinks I'm a guy. (Something to clear up first)
I can't dissect everything you said on an empty stomach. . .

1) I really don't care what the EP actually did do. I only quoted BungalowBill for saying it gave African Americans freedom. If I'm wrong for saying it gave them the right to bear arms, then fine. As long as I know it didn't give them freedom.
2) I never said Japan's attack on the US was a terrorist attack. I just think it was just. But it's just one of those things that had to happen I guess.
3) In regards to being an American, I can't seem to fathom why some of you care. In just means I was born in America.
4) And his is for Bill: I'm sorry if my toughness intimidates you.

And this is for Bungalow and the dude with the link to Wikipedia.
I read the link, and well. . . it kinda supports some of what I said in regards to African Americans. To sum up paragraph 1 line 6, the EP granted slaves in Confederate territory not under Union control freedom.
To say that the EP granted salves freedom is thus a lie because not all slaves in the US were granted freedom.
Bungalow, you may question my education but don't ever question my ability to read. :hphones:

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm mighty hungry, thirsty, and I have no money, so it looks like I'm about to hold up the corner store

And for Murder Junkie I have met few Americans that are proud ever since this 9/11 fiasco and the capture of Saddam Hussein. If anything there's been an increase in the availability of cabs in the city. Which I'm sure has nothing to do with all the white people refusing to ride in cabs driven by people who they think pass for Iraqi and is thus related to Saddam Hussein. No lie.

Be back in 5.
Gotta get some grub
Peace

You know, I actually thought you were a girl - but changed it to boy to be safe. However, I cannot for the life of me think why that would be more safe. I thought you were a girl if it is any consolation.

I said all of this in my post, so at least we are on the same page now.

It did give some Africans and African Americans freedom. It literally says, "Slaves" in the EP. And some slaves were Africans and African Americans - so yes, in fact, it did emancipate some of these people. As for all of them, which you and I have stated now... were not freed by this, and had to be freed by local gov'ts.

I was talking about your 9/11 comment. I don't think that the Japanese attack was a terrorist attack. If you think it was just, that is your opinion - and I also agree that it was a necessary evil.

You were born in America and raised in the American culture. Whether you like it or not, where you were raised speaks volumes for everything that you do and do not- think, say or the way that you act.

Sigh.....I'll say this again, and maybe someone will read it this time. The Emancipation Proclamation didn't 'grant' anyone anything. Sure, it proclaimed slaves to be free, but it wasn't (and still isn't, as far as I know), a law. Slaves in the south may have been 'proclaimed' free on January 1, 1863, but they were, in fact, captive slaves far past that date, until the were freed by Union soldiers marching into the south.

1/1/63 wasn't the date in U.S. history when slaves just dropped their hoes and walked out of the fields a free people. Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation didn't take care of anything.

It's ok.
It's been so long since someone treated me like a girl I've almost forgotten anyhow.

Peace

Agreed. However, it did accomplish alternative goals. Cosmetically, this was a presedential promise that slavery was on the way to being abolished.

Sounds like Honest Abe wasn't Honest just a Strategist.
Appeal to some people get the vote or appela to soem poeple to get the majority happy or give them false hope.

Peace

No one argues with me because it was soundly written and people can't get on a soap box against me easily.

*sigh* my thread has turned to a ****ty argument about the emancipation proclomation can i delete this ?

No. We can't delete every thread the OP doesn't like becuase its not what they want.

its my thread.....i want it deleted its off topic incredibly and i dont know whwt the hell th op is

Maybe he should get some really bad publicity then, like, rob something huge. Like in Oceans 11...or 12...

"ANOREXIC TEENAGE BOY RIPS OFF LAS VEGAS CASINO!"

"THE ANOREXIA HEIST-LEADER CONTINUES HIS FAST!"

Ecetra, ecetra...

^ just for that.. i think that i want to now go throw large heaps of **** at pedestrians just cause i want to **** this thread up more thna it alreayd is lalala **** it

I salute you!
Caps off!

Okay, I'm only posting in this thread because it is the only thread in the lounge that I can access. I have a question.

I can't look at the "New Posts" section because everytime I click it, it says I have to wait 3 more seconds before I can search again. Help please?!

EDIT: nvm

Wait 3 seconds...

DOC the thread has developed into a far more interesting topic. :D

I waited quite a bit more than three seconds, it still wasn't working.

Was it like, 123! Oh did you sit there and properly go, 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi...?

omfg, who cares, he said it's fixed now. If this goes on for a couple page discussion I might just shoot myself.

I went to myspace, left a few comments, and watched a music video, came back, and it still was telling me to wait three seconds.

STFU n00b

OOOOH get her ^...you really should eat something DOC, it's effecting your disposition.

i ate a rice cake just for you right track >.<

It wasn't dishonest. It was making a point and declaring a goal. When we finished the Declaration of Independence, America wasn't immediately free from British rule. We still had to fight a war to get there. Same sort of thing. Another interesting semantics problem developed because of the Civil War. After the Union victory, Lincoln had to decide whether or not he could say he was readmitting southern states to the Union, which would mean they had sucessfully suceeded, when in fact he also wanted to maintain the idea that he'd prevented sucession.