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my views of the world as it is, and how it needs changing.. an essay by mikey or Tdoc..

the world today looks very bad as compared to the sixties and seventies. but how am i supposed to know, i must live the past through pictures, music, and viseo..i am very studious of this time period, but yet, no i never lived then so yeah... But right now we have this issue with the middle east..iran has nukes....and they want to blow up isreal which is the stupidest thing ever .. i am at a split..i do not want a war.. i hate war.. war is utter failure at resolving anything...also we have a money hungry president running the country..hes the worst president we have ever had.... his policies are ****ed..and my god i know my lifes been affected by it... whats the world come to.. also the redundency of msot religions is staggering, i mean i know you guys think im so weird freak..yeah i like black emtal..but i like it because.. of some of the beleifs... about the stop of the spread of christianity.... ok yes i like jesus.. but you know what i hate christianity... i beleive that jesus would have been happy if we were just peaceful...if he existed or not son of god w/e he was a truly good person.. liek mohatma ghandi..who i witnessed get ridiculed durning my global history class.. thye laughed at him because he would not fight back. as of now ive given up on human life..at my school..my best friend thinks its allright to use racial slurs and i hate that, another thing that i have a problem with, is censorship..i went to get neil youngs new album, but walmart refused to stock it, because it was not supportive of the war, and the president..well **** you walmart..oh and i love how people vote for a president based on their religion **** the cc..ok.. also im sick of plastic people i see people at my school obssesed with how they dres..ia ctualyl heard today " do mi look emo enough" listen its not how you look its how you are, your personality, you are who you are.... and i dunno.. the countries not even america anymore.. so ill be living of water..and at msot rice crackers.. and aforced dinner...which i may jsut give to the dog >.< from now until whenever..id jsut like to add my best friends are online.. and no im not pathetic..they are sme of the only good people i have ever met.... thanks catie, angie, ethan,fal , and all th e others... but yeah,, i hope that everywhere is not like this.. but i dunno.. sorry....

Oh my god.
An essay, written by tdoc.
My worst nightmare.

Good look getting people to comprehend that. ;)

^stfu N00b

I don't mean any disrespect to your protest, but you aren't even old enough to vote. I really don't see how depriving yourself of food is going to change the world, the US military occupations aren't going anywhere until there is a change in administration. Take comfort in the fact that Bush's approval ratings are in the toilet, approx 70% of Americans are going to vote for change in the next election.

We are living in an incredibly exciting period as the baby boomers are getting older and dying off, which gives way for our generation to make change. It is my prediction that in the next election we will welcome our first female President (Hillary Clinton), and this is just one of the dramatic turns in tide that we will witness in our lifetime.

This however is not an overnight process, if you take the actions of your country that seriously you only set yourself up for a long life of disappointment. Starving yourself will not change anything, perhaps get involved with the next election and volunteer in your city to help the party that you support's local cantidate. You do not have to be voting age to do this and you just may learn more about your political system and the things you can personally do to help.

For God's sake, go to The Sizzler and get the biggest steak on the menu because change will eventually taste delicious

Bush can't be elected again anyway hes already served two terms & as murder junkie said, starving yourself won't solve anything, well it will do some bad damage to your health.

I am a little discontented with the United States as well, thought it isn't in particular for anything they have done recently. Sure, I am against the War in Iraq. The fact that they blamed September 11, 2001 on terrorists is bullsh*t as well, but, we have always been just as corrupted as we are now. The things that I have been reading lately are really disturbing, the fact that the goverment is/was behing programs such as MKULTRA and COINTELPRO makes me boil. The deliberate murder of Fred Hampton and the Black Panthers in Chicago, Illinois is horrendous. These things were happening 30 years ago. The United States didn't begin corruption when George W Bush was innaugurated. The police force, CIA, and FBI are some of the most corrupt organizations in the world.

so how many men were on the grassy knoll???

Calling me a conspiracy theorist?
MKULTRA and COINTELPRO have been recognized and made public, as have the muder of Fred Hampton and other prominent members of the BPP.

yes

I'm far from a conspiracy theorist.
Call me what you want, like I said in my edit, MKULTRA and COINTELPRO have been recognized by the government, as have the murders of BPP members. They were both disgusting programs. COINTELPRO being an FBI program, and MKULTRA being a CIA program. And it is undeniable that the police force is racist. Look at Mumia Abu-Jamal, and the murder of Amadou Diallo.

Mumia' s evidence is completely inconclusive, it could really go either way

Exactly, yet he is serving a life sentence.

Many innocent people have been jailed, there is a Canadian guy named David Milgaard who did 23 years. Eventually everyone gets their day in court, if proper evidence isn't produced I guess it's just the cost of doing business

I just gave Ethan a brief rundown of COINTELPRO and MKULTRA.
Disgusting.

Yes, its like just...yeah, disgusting.

Any chance you could spellcheck that add in a few paragraphs?

Life is short, why waste it protesting something you can't really change until you're 18.
My advice, wait til you trun 18 and if you still see the world as you do now (or as depicted in your essay) then start to starve yourself.

At any rate, the world is full of idiots and always will be so chances are good that if not you then in the near future someone else will feel the same way you do about the current president and war and whatever.
And I am proud to be an American citizen and say that the US most likely deserved to be hit by a "terrorist attack," definitely deserved what happened at Pearl Harbor and that any natiopn in the future that wants to take a crack at us probably should, most likely will, and will most definitely have a good reason for it.

And I hope to goodness that Hilary doesn't get the presidency. I'm all for girl power and everything but she's retarded. I'm for lesbians and *** rights and everything but I'd rather pray for another Congress shutdown on an Amendment to the constitution to ban *** marriages than to have that psycho in office screwing with my medical insurance, and all that other good stuff.

And as for Mumia Abu Jamal, I am 100% sure he didn't do it.
Rizzo's lucky he's dead cause if he were still alive today I'd be in jail for his murder. (Although I'm not too sure how this topic came up . . .)

Ladies, Gentlemen, Bill
Peace

TDOC how would you like no government?

/agree with Murder Junkie

Also, yes, lets let Bush off the hook because we were always corrupt, and no one else is.

Ennit that the way Ghandi did it?
*whistles casually*

So yes. Mikey, *nod of approval*

Can I just say that the troubles are not unique to this time period and the fact that you picked the 60's and 70's is just laughable. Just because they had glam rock did not mean times were good. (I personally think that means its worse) but in order for everything to be Hunky Dory (god im witty) that qould require a majority to be above the average on things like intelligence and culture.

By its very nature, you can't have a majority above average. People are always going to have problems, and times are never going to be as great as everyone would like. If you disagree then go starve yourself.

Politics is simply crooks robbing from thieves and all of them lying about it. Always has been, always will be.

As far as war never solving anything, I suppose we could still have slavery in the U.S., all of Europe could be being run by Nazis, etc, etc.

Of course, what do I know? I'm a baby boomer who's ready to die anyway, right?

1. The Civil War did not end slavery, the Emancipation Proclamation took care of that.
2. Sure, but what did WWII lead to?
-The Cold War
-The Berlin Wall
-The Vietnam War
-The Korean War

Well, the Emancipation Proclamation wasn't put into effect until 1863, a full two years into the Civil War, and even then, the only reason it came about was because Lincoln was afforded certain powers that a president only has durng war time, per the U.S. Constitution. I must admit, I'm a little rusty on exactly what 'extra powers' they might be, it's been a while since I was in school.

Even so, the Emancipation Proclamation wasn't law, merely a proclamation. It declared the freedom of slaves in Conferderate states, but those slaves only gained their freedom when the Northern armies came in and took control. The Emancipation Proclamation didn't 'take care' of anything. The Union armies were the ones who actually enabled slaves to walk away free people. The only slaves who were immediately and magically 'free' when the proclamation came about, were the ones who were already runaway slaves being held as war contraband in Union camps.


As far as the Cold, Korean, and Vietnam Wars, as well as the Berlin Wall, Well, I suppose we could go back to the 1940's and just hit 'reset', and let Hitler have his way. Then we could cross off "Jewish people" completely, I suppose.

Theres a huge difference between Ghandi and tdoc.

Ghandi was a world figure, known by millions.

The Emancipation Proclamation didn't end slavery, it gave people of color the right to bear arms (weapons).

Would you have rather Germany won WWII?

Peace

Oh goodness... Raine, I've never interacted with you on the forums before... but you are saying some pretty... dumb things, to be blunt. I suggest you take 5 minutes and go research the Emancipation Proclamation and then come back and tell us what you've learned about something you have very little knowledge about. I'm not attacking you here, but helping you not to make a fool of yourselves around people who know what they are talking about. The right for colored people to bear arms was granted through individual state legislatures and the process of allowing our darker friends went through several stages - such as the Black Codes, etc. And these laws didn't even apply to JUST blacks- as the people were not afraid so much of blacks in those days, but Indians (not Ghandi, but Tonto) were a much larger threat.

Now, I don't remember this for sure - but I don't even remember the Emancipation Proclamation mentioning the right of colored people to do anything with arms at all...

And how can you say we (the US) have deserved everything and we will always deserved to be attacked? And you call yourself a proud citizen? Go tell the family members of the WTC, and the injured that their family members "Deserved" to die, that the injured deserved to be maimed or crippled or emotionally scarred. Walk up and tell them to their face. Have someone video tape it - and I'll send the recording of your face being ripped off to CNN, after all... you probably deserved it. And I guess if somebody in the position of authority said "HEY LET'S KILL ALL PEOPLE BORN IN 1989 BECAUSE A 16 YEAR OLD HIT MY DOG TODAY" you would be dead, and by your logic... you would deserve it.

Please. Go sneak into a rated R movie and take a break from this thread. Or at least do you and the rest of us a favor and do a little research before you run your mouth off, ok? I am sorry if I came off a little harsh, but take a step back and try to comprehend the ignorance of the statements you made. You have single handedly discounted the efforts of millions of people to secure rights (while not always successful, thanks for mentioning) that were previously unheard of in the history of time.

Love you, Crowe.

PS: Are people ignoring Big3's posts? Why do you think corruption, and national problems are a unique trait of America? Should we really go through the histories of other countries and bring out the little skeletons in the national closet? Psh.

Is there really the need to tell me what "arms" are. I think I understand.
Unlike you, who seems to be totally oblivious and undereducated.

I am aware that other nations have their "skeletons", but as an American, our skeletons facinate me most.

TDOC, this isn't an essay, it's a rant. And a barely coherent one at that. You need to learn some grammer skills and sentence structure (use periods for God's sake!). Also the fact that you condemn your friend's use of racial slurs and then make a generalized condemnation of censorship in the next sentence. If you're fully against censorship, then you have to allow people to say whatever they want when they want. Otherwise be more specific about your concern. Say you feel censorship should be scaled back, but not completely abolished. Are you just venting...or is there a point to this juevenalia? If you want to make a statment that people will take seriously...spelling is important. So is factual evidence to support your claims and a little more substance to your argument.

^ gramamr is uncalled for on an internet forum psst..yes theres a point..censorship is annoying, but racial slurs should not exist thats not censorship, thats just common sense

From MSN Encarta: censorship - suppression of something objectionable: the suppression or attempted suppression of something regarded as objectionable

And sure, you don't need to use grammar or even spell correctly on a forum. But if you are trying to make a point and be taken seriously (and it seems like you do) it's easier if you don't make yourself look like an idiot who doesn't know about his own languange, nevermind sociopolitical matters (which you haven't proved you know anything about either).

Touche, salesman.

i used to like you, if i wanted to type correctly i could but using to fingers..weel writing a ranty thing..doesn not always end up in the most coherent sentences..now censorship on th other thing is stupid..but couldnt you just agree thet saying a racial slur is wrong?

Sure, it's wrong. But it's hipocritical to critisize censorship, and then admonish people for using slurs.

^ just racial slurs...its not hippocritical..its wrong to use them.. i dont use..them..they shouldnt have to eb censored they shouldnt exist

But they do, and people can use them.

It is hypocritical, sorry but "fuck censorship! OMG! Did that guy just say ******? shoot him!".

6hah yeah im defending my pointlesnens..we jsut need to cutback the censorship a lot...

How do you manage to type like this? The 6 is nowhere near the h on the keyboard... and the sad thing is, I totally understand what you're saying.