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MURDER JUNKIE 06-11-2006 03:17 AM

TDOC are you eating yet??

The 2 t-bone steaks I had for you were delicious, and I swear I almost split the ass out of my pants because I was so full

If you haven't started eating yet, I would reccomend a meal like this

Raine 06-11-2006 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowe
Oh goodness... Raine, I've never interacted with you on the forums before... but you are saying some pretty... dumb things, to be blunt. I suggest you take 5 minutes and go research the Emancipation Proclamation and then come back and tell us what you've learned about something you have very little knowledge about. I'm not attacking you here, but helping you not to make a fool of yourselves around people who know what they are talking about. The right for colored people to bear arms was granted through individual state legislatures and the process of allowing our darker friends went through several stages - such as the Black Codes, etc. And these laws didn't even apply to JUST blacks- as the people were not afraid so much of blacks in those days, but Indians (not Ghandi, but Tonto) were a much larger threat.
Now, I don't remember this for sure - but I don't even remember the Emancipation Proclamation mentioning the right of colored people to do anything with arms at all...
And how can you say we (the US) have deserved everything and we will always deserved to be attacked? And you call yourself a proud citizen? Go tell the family members of the WTC, and the injured that their family members "Deserved" to die, that the injured deserved to be maimed or crippled or emotionally scarred. Walk up and tell them to their face. Have someone video tape it - and I'll send the recording of your face being ripped off to CNN, after all... you probably deserved it. And I guess if somebody in the position of authority said "HEY LET'S KILL ALL PEOPLE BORN IN 1989 BECAUSE A 16 YEAR OLD HIT MY DOG TODAY" you would be dead, and by your logic... you would deserve it.
Please. Go sneak into a rated R movie and take a break from this thread. Or at least do you and the rest of us a favor and do a little research before you run your mouth off, ok? I am sorry if I came off a little harsh, but take a step back and try to comprehend the ignorance of the statements you made. You have single handedly discounted the efforts of millions of people to secure rights

Well . .
Let me say this. The Emancipation Proclamation never gave african americans freedom. Please tell me where it says that and then we'll question my education.
And I'm not really a proud American citizen. That was just sarcasm.
During WWII, the president declared neutrality but was a hypocrite and decided to sell weapons to just Britain. That's why Japan attacked America. Because the president of the United States didn't understand the meaning of the word neutral. Or because he was being a hypocrite. Take your pick of words.

Judging by some of the other stuff you said it's safe to infer that you were somehow effected by WWII. (And whether you were effected or not doesn't matter to me because I don't care. So just go with it.) Well I'll tell you two things:
1) nowhere in my previous post did I say that all the millions of people that died in Europe deserved what happened to them. I only said that the US deserved to be attack. Get it straight
2) Try not to waste my time with posts like this if you don't have evidence to support what you are saying.

And before I leave, the very last sentence of your post, in real life, if you said that to my face, and someone was recording this, there'd be nothing left of you to be aired on CNN. Are we clear? I hope so.

And for the record, I don't think yuo came off as harsh and I never once thought you were attacking me. I just thought youw ere a person with an opinion without the ability to read between the lines.


Peace

Mama Booze 06-11-2006 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill
Theres a huge difference between Ghandi and tdoc.

He was known because he made himself known. Doc could do the same.

Anything's possible.

MURDER JUNKIE 06-11-2006 12:02 PM

nobody deserves a cowardly attack of running planes into buildings, you should be deported. I am sure if your parents knew the way you felt, they would be ashamed. I was ashamed reading your post and I'm not even an American

sleepy jack 06-11-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by some_exotic_booze
He was known because he made himself known. Doc could do the same.

Anything's possible.

Well theres a completely genius statement, someone famous because they made themselve famous? tdoc is a teenager, not a major political/spiritual leader and tons of teenagers starve themselves, for different reasons typically then this. I really doubt hes gonna be all over the news because hes doing this. All he is doing is damaging his health.

bungalow 06-11-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Raine
Well . .
Let me say this. The Emancipation Proclamation never gave african americans freedom. Please tell me where it says that and then we'll question my education.
And I'm not really a proud American citizen. That was just sarcasm.
During WWII, the president declared neutrality but was a hypocrite and decided to sell weapons to just Britain. That's why Japan attacked America. Because the president of the United States didn't understand the meaning of the word neutral. Or because he was being a hypocrite. Take your pick of words.

Judging by some of the other stuff you said it's safe to infer that you were somehow effected by WWII. (And whether you were effected or not doesn't matter to me because I don't care. So just go with it.) Well I'll tell you two things:
1) nowhere in my previous post did I say that all the millions of people that died in Europe deserved what happened to them. I only said that the US deserved to be attack. Get it straight
2) Try not to waste my time with posts like this if you don't have evidence to support what you are saying.

And before I leave, the very last sentence of your post, in real life, if you said that to my face, and someone was recording this, there'd be nothing left of you to be aired on CNN. Are we clear? I hope so.

And for the record, I don't think yuo came off as harsh and I never once thought you were attacking me. I just thought youw ere a person with an opinion without the ability to read between the lines.


Peace

Theatening Crowe with violence?
What a fool, do you think anyone actually believes that you're some tough chick like you try to portray yourself as?

The Emancipation Proclamation declared that all slaves be freed. YOU do some research, or at least read THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the f*cking document before you proclaim to be an expert on it.

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Originally Posted by The Emancipation Proclamation
"That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free


Can we all agree that Raine is an idiot with zero education?

bungalow 06-11-2006 12:38 PM

I think you have succeded in making yourself look like an uneducated fool.

swim 06-11-2006 12:40 PM

I don't really have anything to add I just don't like anybody being wrong.

emancipation

n : freeing someone from the control of another

wikipedia is our friend

bungalow 06-11-2006 12:46 PM

Thank you very much swinintheundertow.

Crowe 06-11-2006 12:55 PM

Tut. Ok, let's pick this apart.

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Let me say this. The Emancipation Proclamation never gave african americans freedom. Please tell me where it says that and then we'll question my education.
I never said that it did grant "african americans" freedom. However, your education was already questioned and found faulty. You were wrong in your original statement that the Emancipation Proclamation gave the right for people of color to bear arms. A subject that is not even present in the EP. Also when you say "we'll question" you are not a necessary reagent in the questioning of your education. I can do it on my own successfully, as proven.
The EP did, however, grant freedom to SLAVES which would include africans and african americans. (However, when Lincoln announced it, it was only for states that had seceded from the union. The states that were still in the union - commonly known as border states - were not effected by the EP, but rather through their own governments followed suit).

Got it? Ok, that's one down.

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And I'm not really a proud American citizen. That was just sarcasm.
During WWII, the president declared neutrality but was a hypocrite and decided to sell weapons to just Britain. That's why Japan attacked America. Because the president of the United States didn't understand the meaning of the word neutral. Or because he was being a hypocrite.
Proud, not proud, your choice. Your sarcasm only now adds to your weak statements. Neutrality on that level is not as black and white as a dictionary's definition would make it out to be. To think that you believe you understand the political process and international impact of every action during wartime and questioning one of the greatest American president's motives only make you seem even more ridiculous. I do not, nor have I ever pretended to know the motives of something that is far above me.

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Judging by some of the other stuff you said it's safe to infer that you were somehow effected by WWII. (And whether you were effected or not doesn't matter to me because I don't care. So just go with it.) Well I'll tell you two things:
1) nowhere in my previous post did I say that all the millions of people that died in Europe deserved what happened to them. I only said that the US deserved to be attack. Get it straight
2) Try not to waste my time with posts like this if you don't have evidence to support what you are saying.
I have not been immediately effected by WWII in the way you are suggesting. But by saying the US deserved to be attacked by terrorist/ will continue to "deserve" being attacked is a blanket statement that encompasses a slew of other applications of your words. Once again, if you think that a black and white generalization will be satisfactory for an intelligent conversation, you are wrong. You should prepare yourself to be in a position to defend your statements. In this case, you have made the aforementioned blanket statement and now you may be realizing the rather enormous load that is in tow of that statement.

Waste your time? If you think your time is being wasted, don't dedicate time to coming to a forums where opinions and discussions are held. Besides, not only did I give evidence to my statements (see: my explanation of armed people of color), provided a satirical situation using your apparent logic, and gave reasons to my own logic. All of these things are a whole in forming my conclusions and judgement... which is evidence.

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And before I leave, the very last sentence of your post, in real life, if you said that to my face, and someone was recording this, there'd be nothing left of you to be aired on CNN. Are we clear? I hope so.
Did you just threaten me online? Grow up. Go take that shiny new driver's license for a spin, little boy.

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I just thought youw ere a person with an opinion without the ability to read between the lines.
You are a person without the ability to create defined lines to begin with. You have made ignorant statements, own up to them.


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