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Originally Posted by Molasses

Amsterdam is not a country! Wow you can really spot the American.

Meant Amsterdam along with other countries...poorly worded.

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I think it matters, if I only cared and learned about what was around me, I'd be pretty ignorant to other religions and cultures and many other things. But yeah, maybe it doesn't matter.

But when asked a question, wouldn't you first think it was in your own circumstances, your own situation, and not what is exactly "correct" for the rest of the world. What is around you is what you know best.

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No-one specifed that Alejo was talking about American wal-marts... he/she (sorry!) said 'if you think you can't get a gun from wal-mart you are an idiot.

He...and no need to be sorry, it's a message board, it can get difficult.

But from your original message, you stated that a Texan did not know guns were illegal. Think about that, the common person thinks that you are talking about guns being illegal around the Texan.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Jane

And nothing wrong with using the term 'illegal' because 'decriminalised' does not mean it is legal, and you can still be fined and given a custodial sentence and a criminal record for having even small amounts of cannabis most places.
Adding 'de' to the world criminal doesn't mean its not criminal, anymore than 'demoted' means you've lost your job... it just means the positioning isn't as high up.

IN THE US, decriminalization of marijuana implies that you are NOT charged with a misdemeanor possession charge nor will it be included in your permanent record. Instead, you are given a ticket (you would more than likely pay the ticket the same courthouse you would go to for say a traffic ticket), the ticket would typically range anywhere between $25 to $300, depending on where you live. Still, in most locations in the states first offense charges are treated as misdemeanors and you could serve jail time and students can lose financial aid. "Legalization" implies that there are no tickets, no written punishments for possession. It might be a difference of opinion, but "decriminalization" to me has no criminal implication.

yeah thats right, decriminilization means exactly that, if found with substance on you then they give you a citation, which is far less than an actual criminal charge. You dont serve any jail time and it doesnt go on any criminal record. Here in Arizona it is still a Zero Tollerance State, in other words, even a seed can land you in jail with drug charges going on your criminal record. Most states that marijuana has been decriminalized in only allow up to a certain amount, usually an ounce or two, anything over that will still get you in trouble.

A perfect travel size.

i agree, an ounce lasts me from one payday till the next, then its time to re-up again. But I try not to travel with it for obvious reasons..aka Sherriff Joe Arpaio

My state has not decriminalized marijuana, but my city has, and the max charge for the first offense is $250 including court costs. Im not sure if this is the national figure, but I think they draw the line at 35 grams (ounce & quarter).

250 bucks is alot of cash, but it beats a week in tent city anyday

How often do you get paid? That much a month and I'd never get to work!

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Originally Posted by jibber

I worded my post in the way that I did because it sounded as though you were denouncing the fact that US troops killed innocent people in the Vietnam and Korean war as a false statement.

Oh no. I know some did. People go crazy. I misunderstood.