Saddam Hangs (American, quote)

TheBig3 · 12-30-2006, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

You realize he said supported not involved right?

Probably not, Oojay can't read. He gets his news from the same place he gets all his well informed opinions; what he hears around the local bars.

I was actually at a rest stop at 4 AM (which explains the time) watching this on a TV, and there were like 10 people gathered around. Fox didn't show it but still, murdering people as a nation means you've still got one foot in the primitive 3rd world. I know here in the U.S. it actually costs more to kill a man than it does to give him a life sentence.

I don't really understand the idea behind killing a man for a crime. What good does it do anyone that he's dead? I'd actually welcome death, the slow rot of jail seems like a ****ing hell.

TheBig3 · 12-30-2006, 03:37 AM

Actually post-dealignment, a majority of americans I believe are registered independants, but there hasn't been a year in the last 100 or so where republicans have been any kind of majority. Even in 1984 at their peak democrats still out populated any other catagory.

Republicans are less likely to defect. Democrats more likly.

Republicans do a better job at courting independants.

The higher the office in the election, the higher chance of defection.

right-track · 12-30-2006, 03:43 AM

This man deserved to die. The atrocities against the Kurds alone justify his hanging.
What I fail to understand, judging by previous posts in this thread, is the distancing (by some of the Americans) of responsibility regarding his execution.
Make no mistake...Iraqi law, Iraqi execution...yes.
Nothing to do with America (and Britain)...no.

Merkaba · 12-30-2006, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I don't really understand the idea behind killing a man for a crime. What good does it do anyone that he's dead? I'd actually welcome death, the slow rot of jail seems like a ****ing hell.

I think it depends on how you perceive a decision. Are you a better person for allowing someone to live? Or given you would have them locked away for the rest of their lives, are you a better person for killing them?

I always think to myself a life spent locked up with the bare essentials of survival must be hell, but there is something about the death penalty that seemed that much more fitting.

Mama Booze · 12-30-2006, 07:28 AM

He's Saddam Hussein.
I think I support a hanging in this case.
Nuff said.
Cheers to this.

Crowe · 12-30-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I don't really understand the idea behind killing a man for a crime. What good does it do anyone that he's dead? I'd actually welcome death, the slow rot of jail seems like a ****ing hell.

If he's alive he still has a voice with which he could speak to his followers. He would still be dangerous if he were rotting away. It is foolish to underestimate the power of a former despot's voice.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-30-2006, 08:21 AM

I don`t think it makes any difference whatsoever.
The Americans will use it as an example of how they are doing good in the world. His supporters will use it to make him a martyr.
But thats basically whats been happening ever since he was captured.

Either way , the truth is that Saddam has been a red herring ever since the Iraq army was found out to be nowhere near as powerful as he had claimed and everybody had guessed since the first gulf war.
Before that he was a real threat to his neighbours. After that the best he could manage was by bluffing to UN weapons inspectors about his weapons capabilities and by playing to the worlds suspicions about what he actually had.
His death won`t mean a thing.

sleepy jack · 12-30-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowe

If he's alive he still has a voice with which he could speak to his followers. He would still be dangerous if he were rotting away. It is foolish to underestimate the power of a former despot's voice.

If hes in jail, I doubt they'd let him go out and give him public speeches and go book signing you know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Fox didn't show it but still, murdering people as a nation means you've still got one foot in the primitive 3rd world.

I agree with this.

Mr Sensitive · 12-30-2006, 10:35 AM

They should have done to Saddam what they did to Jesse Pomeroy.

TheBig3 · 12-30-2006, 02:03 PM

The Western presence in the middle east spawns more terrorist. Period. We are the warm body that give the disease a place to florish. I'm sure Ill be defending this cursory point for a good three of four pages but the deal in the middle east in nations like Iraq is that force is the only thing that keeps peace.

When you think there is a place you're going after this life, and it will be made better by killing someone of a certain "group", there is no law that stops you. Tyrants are needed to keep barbarians in line. Iraq is an issue for at least another 30 years.

12-30-2006, 03:37 AM	#32 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Actually post-dealignment, a majority of americans I believe are registered independants, but there hasn't been a year in the last 100 or so where republicans have been any kind of majority. Even in 1984 at their peak democrats still out populated any other catagory. Republicans are less likely to defect. Democrats more likly. Republicans do a better job at courting independants. The higher the office in the election, the higher chance of defection. __________________ I've moved to a new address

12-30-2006, 08:21 AM	#37 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I don`t think it makes any difference whatsoever. The Americans will use it as an example of how they are doing good in the world. His supporters will use it to make him a martyr. But thats basically whats been happening ever since he was captured. Either way , the truth is that Saddam has been a red herring ever since the Iraq army was found out to be nowhere near as powerful as he had claimed and everybody had guessed since the first gulf war. Before that he was a real threat to his neighbours. After that the best he could manage was by bluffing to UN weapons inspectors about his weapons capabilities and by playing to the worlds suspicions about what he actually had. His death won`t mean a thing. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

12-30-2006, 10:35 AM	#39 (permalink)
Mr Sensitive Hyperkinetic Rabbitything Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Noodle Mines Posts: 811	They should have done to Saddam what they did to Jesse Pomeroy. __________________

12-30-2006, 02:03 PM	#40 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	The Western presence in the middle east spawns more terrorist. Period. We are the warm body that give the disease a place to florish. I'm sure Ill be defending this cursory point for a good three of four pages but the deal in the middle east in nations like Iraq is that force is the only thing that keeps peace. When you think there is a place you're going after this life, and it will be made better by killing someone of a certain "group", there is no law that stops you. Tyrants are needed to keep barbarians in line. Iraq is an issue for at least another 30 years. __________________ I've moved to a new address

12-30-2006, 03:43 AM	#33 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	This man deserved to die. The atrocities against the Kurds alone justify his hanging. What I fail to understand, judging by previous posts in this thread, is the distancing (by some of the Americans) of responsibility regarding his execution. Make no mistake...Iraqi law, Iraqi execution...yes. Nothing to do with America (and Britain)...no.

12-30-2006, 07:28 AM	#35 (permalink)
Mama Booze Here's lookin at you, kid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The White Hotel Posts: 366	He's Saddam Hussein. I think I support a hanging in this case. Nuff said. Cheers to this.