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Kurt_Cobain · 01-08-2007, 05:31 PM

Some muslims blow people up because their God demands in. Lets slag their religion off and call them packie bastards. Oh wait, thats wrong.
Yes homosexuallity is wrong in the bible, but the bible says other things.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
And I think God asks people to reserve their judgement for Him. Love everyone regardless the sin. Yes the sin is wrong, but the person is not. And God can forgive *** people too, thats like saying its all right to kill and rape, and you can be forgiven, but sleep with the same sex and its over. B.S
Thats why people hate our religion, because people get self righteous. I love ya all, ***, straight or bi. Because I choose to as a person, not just as a christian. Choice was the first gift, so use it to spread a bit of love, k?

01-08-2007, 05:34 PM

No, I disagree with Islam as well.

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Yes homosexuallity is wrong in the bible, but the bible says other things.

You're right, the Bible does condemn homosexuality. In fact, according to Leviticus 20:13 you are to put homosexuals to death. Why don't you do this? Your Bible directly commands the murder of homosexuals, yet you choose not to kill them. Why? Are you not disobeying God?

~nutshell~ · 01-08-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay

communion is a metaphor. The bread or cracker is meant to represent the body of christ, and the grape juice (only catholics use wine) is meant to represent his blood. The idea is that consuming the body and blood of christ (metaphorically speaking) will help you become more christ-like yourself (meaning more purity and less sin). Atleast thats how I understand it to be.

Some Irish Catholics, like my parents, were taught as childrenthat was his ACTUAL blood. That the priest had some magical powers. The nuns told them a story of a boy who put the communioin cracker in his pocket and his pocket started to bleed real blood- Christ's blood.

My parents left the church cuz they were taught all this voo doo crap.

Kurt_Cobain · 01-08-2007, 05:42 PM

Its the old testament, with the eye for the basis. Christians live by Christ's words, and to turn the other cheak. We don't want to kill for sin, because its a sin itself. And if you read the whole bible, you'll know what to die means:
And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
It means they'll be cast into the lake of fire and not inherit eternal lifee, so it is to die.

_Spinning_ · 01-08-2007, 05:43 PM

So if they're paying the price themselves, what right does the Church have to say no to Civil Union?

~nutshell~ · 01-08-2007, 05:43 PM

ok. I don't believe it. But then again, I don't believe in hell. And I'm not so sure about God either.

tdoc210 · 01-08-2007, 05:46 PM

As I havesince I was young, and first experinced death, firmly beleived, that religion, as a whole, was an entirley ridicoulous affair. After being taught about how great Christians were for converting "pagan cultures to christianity, i began to question it, first i asked the teacher, what if the people, wanted nothing to do with the christians or their beleifs, the age old traditions of these cultures should have been preserved, not obliterated. Then when I found out that Christians killed, or outcast anyone who was not of their faith, i concluded that the only reason these people converted their religion was for fear of their own lives, and welfare of their family. Fore they could face a penalty such as, stoning or burning at the stake, i can see the goodwill being spread right there. I was brought up in a christian/catholic household, obviousley catholic because of Irish lneage, not that matters, but being brought up christian, i was bale to first hand witness the lies, one of the earliest memories was in catholic primary school, when i asked how come no jewish kids come here, and the teacher replied, this a christian school, people who are heretics arnt aloowed here. I then saw discimination for the fisrt time. Church was a laughing matter, sitting there and watching them denounce non beleivers, and god was great bull, and especially my favourite memory, after hearing the sermon about how jesus knocked the money off the table at the temple, there was a money collection immeadiatley afterwards. I have experience in this so dont say i dont know.

~nutshell~ · 01-08-2007, 05:49 PM

yup. sounds like my parents upbringing. The Christians were terrorists. that is true and cannot be denied.

Kurt_Cobain · 01-08-2007, 05:50 PM

^Christians messed up big time through history, and those people were self righteous morons, and not true christians in my eyes. But if thats your view of christians, I apologise for the ignorant mistakes the church has made. I talk of my views as a christian, and I hope I dont come across ignorant to the world and self-righteous

01-08-2007, 05:50 PM

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Its the old testament, with the eye for the basis. Christians live by Christ's words, and to turn the other cheak. We don't want to kill for sin, because its a sin itself. And if you read the whole bible, you'll know what to die means:
And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
It means they'll be cast into the lake of fire and not inherit eternal lifee, so it is to die.

Ah, yes. You live by Christ's words, the Old Testament is rubbish.
Well, since you have already admitted that you live by Christ's words, then you should know that you are NOT TO DEVIATE from Old Testament law. In Matthew 5:17-19, Jesus is speaking to his disciples and he says:

Do not think that I have come to abolish the law of the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fufil. Amen I say to you until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or the smallest part of the letter will pass from the Law, until all things have taken place. Therefore whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven

Here Jesus clearly says that we are not to for-go Old Testament Law, and not to teach others that it is okay to for-go Old Testament Law. Well, you just tried to tell me that we do not have to follow Old Testament Law, directly contradicting what Jesus says in Matthew.

01-08-2007, 05:31 PM	#31 (permalink)
Kurt_Cobain Alan Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In bed, with Cheryl Tweedy Posts: 275	Some muslims blow people up because their God demands in. Lets slag their religion off and call them packie bastards. Oh wait, thats wrong. Yes homosexuallity is wrong in the bible, but the bible says other things. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" And I think God asks people to reserve their judgement for Him. Love everyone regardless the sin. Yes the sin is wrong, but the person is not. And God can forgive * people too, thats like saying its all right to kill and rape, and you can be forgiven, but sleep with the same sex and its over. B.S Thats why people hate our religion, because people get self righteous. I love ya all, *, straight or bi. Because I choose to as a person, not just as a christian. Choice was the first gift, so use it to spread a bit of love, k? __________________ http://kungfucrazy.forum-motion.com/

01-08-2007, 05:42 PM	#34 (permalink)
Kurt_Cobain Alan Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In bed, with Cheryl Tweedy Posts: 275	Its the old testament, with the eye for the basis. Christians live by Christ's words, and to turn the other cheak. We don't want to kill for sin, because its a sin itself. And if you read the whole bible, you'll know what to die means: And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." It means they'll be cast into the lake of fire and not inherit eternal lifee, so it is to die. __________________ http://kungfucrazy.forum-motion.com/

01-08-2007, 05:43 PM	#36 (permalink)
~nutshell~ Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 103	ok. I don't believe it. But then again, I don't believe in hell. And I'm not so sure about God either. __________________ Just not enough. I need more. Nothing seems to satisfy. I said, I don't want it. I just need it. To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.

01-08-2007, 05:46 PM	#37 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	As I havesince I was young, and first experinced death, firmly beleived, that religion, as a whole, was an entirley ridicoulous affair. After being taught about how great Christians were for converting "pagan cultures to christianity, i began to question it, first i asked the teacher, what if the people, wanted nothing to do with the christians or their beleifs, the age old traditions of these cultures should have been preserved, not obliterated. Then when I found out that Christians killed, or outcast anyone who was not of their faith, i concluded that the only reason these people converted their religion was for fear of their own lives, and welfare of their family. Fore they could face a penalty such as, stoning or burning at the stake, i can see the goodwill being spread right there. I was brought up in a christian/catholic household, obviousley catholic because of Irish lneage, not that matters, but being brought up christian, i was bale to first hand witness the lies, one of the earliest memories was in catholic primary school, when i asked how come no jewish kids come here, and the teacher replied, this a christian school, people who are heretics arnt aloowed here. I then saw discimination for the fisrt time. Church was a laughing matter, sitting there and watching them denounce non beleivers, and god was great bull, and especially my favourite memory, after hearing the sermon about how jesus knocked the money off the table at the temple, there was a money collection immeadiatley afterwards. I have experience in this so dont say i dont know. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

01-08-2007, 05:49 PM	#38 (permalink)
~nutshell~ Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 103	yup. sounds like my parents upbringing. The Christians were terrorists. that is true and cannot be denied. __________________ Just not enough. I need more. Nothing seems to satisfy. I said, I don't want it. I just need it. To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.

01-08-2007, 05:43 PM	#35 (permalink)
_Spinning_ Inexplicably Back Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 830	So if they're paying the price themselves, what right does the Church have to say no to Civil Union?

01-08-2007, 05:50 PM	#39 (permalink)
Kurt_Cobain Alan Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In bed, with Cheryl Tweedy Posts: 275	^Christians messed up big time through history, and those people were self righteous morons, and not true christians in my eyes. But if thats your view of christians, I apologise for the ignorant mistakes the church has made. I talk of my views as a christian, and I hope I dont come across ignorant to the world and self-righteous __________________ http://kungfucrazy.forum-motion.com/