Music Banter - Sex Offender in MY Neighbourhood

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 378757)

Rule by fear of force? What do you propose a dictatorship? Where courtrooms have the firing squad next to the jury and instead of the ring of a gavel we have a fusillade at the end? Whos going to lead, the "president"? But obviously hes going to be special, even if he say, shoots someone in the face he won't get punished, he'd never have to sometimes stand naked he'd be better he'd be the one to decide who gets killed, thrown to the wolves, and or tortured right?

A dictatorship CAN work if we have the right dictator; someone who is in power not for the sake of being in power, but for doing what's needed to strengthen society. If there is such a person, and he/she can rule with an iron fist without letting any prejudice thought cloud their judgment and causing more harm than good, then yes. I propose a dictatorship.

Yeah but back to the vase, what if you accidentally knock it over? Should you have to pay? Lets say you're hunting and you accidentally shoot someone, you didn't see them but you hit them should you be killed for something you didn't want to have done? No of course not, its not the action its the motive, right? He probably shouldn't get as much jail time as a serial killer, but still putting that murder on the same level as stabbing someone to death? Thats not right.

Ok, accidents I would say can be forgiven because, as I said, it's the reason for such actions that make them good or bad. Accidents are neither good nor bad, and given the situation, I would say some punishment is in order. Just not as severe.

You should be punished for being careless. We already have people who carelessly (but unintentionally) kill people. We call it Manslaughter, I do believe. If you are driving a car, and are talking on a cell phone or whatever, and fail to see some pedestrian still crossing the road, and you hit that person, you'd probably get your license taken away at least. I know that you can get jail time for hitting construction workers and fined.

Nonetheless, we do punish people for accidents. How would you accidently knock over a vase? By not looking where you're going. How would you accidently shoot someone? By, for one, pointing your gun at someone, and/or not making sure that he/she wasn't the one you wanted to hit. Carelessness is already punished today. We just don't send people to death row for it. And contrary to what you're probably thinking, I don't invision the complete genocide of all people stupid enough to make an "OOPSIE!"

As the unfan said earlier neither. There is no way a society can progress if were not after the best and most fair decision for every person, were just out for payback.

Payback is done by people who have no power, people who don't have the right to take justice in their own hands.

Its weak because its not a killing machine? It takes strength to be gentle and kind.

You make it sound like it's a bad thing. As long as it's killing the right people, I see nothing wrong with having one.

That is the single most disgusting and ignorant thing I have ever read. Do we start creating regimes, rules and take away freedom? Lets just piddle away our time trying to make this nation as fascist as possible otherwise we'd all be going to hell right? "What? you're a homosexual? Fetch the rope! We can't tolerate that." People like you make me sad for america.

Where did I say I believed in a system where people could be killed for being ***/black/jewish/etc.? That wouldn't be fair. In your eyes, fascism is evil and corrupt. So if we've followed YOUR guidelines, then America is as corrupt as any other fascist nation. More corrupt than the system I (and I use this word lightly) dream of having. We have affirmative action, we have bans on *** marriage and smoking in public places being passed and debated. We have politicians sucking up to the public in order to get more votes. They don't care about us. They just want our support so they can earn more money doing **** for our country that weakens us even further. They might as well just come to your house, give you a blow job, then piss on your yard.

Our system of government is more corrupt than anything I'm talking about. They just don't flaunt it.

And one final note; I've been talking about a perfect dictatorship. What do I think a perfect dictatorship is; One person has all the power, but the person knows how to use that power to benefit society and not themselves.

A perfect dictatorship would not tolerate any insubordination; no open group protest against ****. Nothing pisses me off more than to see a bunch of people rallied together protesting against some crappy shampoo that's animal tested, or some protest against some celebrity's prison sentence. I'm all for freedom of speech, but I think it's stupid and pointless to rally together and disrupt the peace when you can just very well talk about it in a small group of people. Unless it's actually for a good cause that benefits humanity (civil rights movement, for example), I think these guys should shut their ****ing traps.

MY perfect dictatorship wouldn't oppress forms of expression that are seen as obscene or vile. If America is so keen on being free, why allow censorship? I think 3 midgets in a threesome with a fat chick while pissing on each other is just as much a valid form of expression as something more tasteful like erotica. If ya don't like it, don't listen to/look at/participate in it.

This is all I have gotten off the top of my head at the moment. I'm really tired, so I'll end with this; I'm not arrogant enough to believe that such a dictatorship will exist or even CAN exist because, as I said, it would need a person who is pretty much emotionally unattached to things and is focused on strengthening civilization. Have you met anyone who had no feelings of greed or ambition, or didn't have any unselfish feelings? If you have, then cheers to you. I haven't. Humans are disgusting, selfish, and greedy beings. We have the power to become better INDIVIDUALLY. As a group, there are too many limits we can't break. We can't cooperate and all coexist in a democracy because there's always some ******* who doesn't want what everyone else wants and we have to waste time compromising. We can't put one person in charge because that person is just going to be as selfish and ambitious as the rest of us, except that our word will not matter.

I guess I'm kind of contradicting myself because I've been preaching all this pro-dictator stuff and now I'm here showing how flawed it is. So just to clear things up;

This is what I believe SHOULD happen, not what I believe CAN happens and WILL happen. It's merely a vision. Kind of like how I want to win the lottery. I believe it should happen, but ****, it ain't.

And one thing, I extended you the courtesy of not calling you ignorant or close-minded. If you would, do the same for me. Otherwise, I'll feel like I'm talking to some liberal-esque teenager with disillusions of a "happy and caring" society, rather than a person with a strong argument with valid points.

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